You’ll have the choice of Ardour, Mixbus or Reaper.
Sadly, I have come to the end of the line with Cubase. I am only a lowly retired ,non professional, home user, so I guess I am not in the targeted segment.
I have quite a hardware investment (at least for me) that started with the O1X to my current MR816CSX and Yamaha XF7. Add the upgraded PC’s, etc and for me thats a decent investment.
The upcoming issue for me is that I have 8 PC’s in my home, a couple dedicated to specific uses: Studio, Gaming, Servers, etc…Most of them are Win10 based, the rest have some variation of Linus Distros.
The HW in all of them is pretty good, but a few years old. Butthey are not Win11 upgradable , er more specific, Win11 supportable. I actually don’t want to move to Win11 based on the expected path MS is moving to anyway.
So I am starting a new life moving to a music friendly distro on my studio PC. I just installed (dual boot) Unbuntu Studio and will give a go. Of course, I will need a new audio interface, since there is no support for my perfectly good, but aging Yamaha MR816. Thus the price of addmission to the brave new world.
As far as Win11 and going forward, I am not sure many people understand the ramifications of the new MS model (not just for music either). I know that I will not be part of that path going forward. That being said, I would love if they ported Cubase to Linux. Despite those that insist that Linux has a small market share now, doesn’t mean that upcoming years it won’t grow. Also, modern distro’s are not all "command line"as some seem to imply. If fact, I have moved a few non techie friends to Mint OS and they seem to like it just fine vs. windows.
So I guess what I am conveying, is that I will no longer be part of the Cubase family. They may not care as I am just a lowly retiree that likes to make music sometimes. It’s not that I didn’t like the product, it just no longer meets my needs going forward. My money will be going elsewhere for now.
The future in terms of music production (but not only there) is neither Windows, nor Mac and certainly not Linux. Not much longer, then DAWs will run on a server on the Internet and we will have access via our home computer, which will then only serve as a terminal. My wife runs an IT business and she and all her colleagues already work exclusively with programs that run in the cloud. And yes, I mean running (!) in the cloud - not just uploading and saving! Like FIGMA, Sketch and MIRO board, for example.
The operating system on which the home computer (aka terminal) runs is already completely irrelevant. So it could also be Linux. But they are all using Macs anyway.
Oeh you give me goosebumps. I want it exactly the other way around. Run on a simple solid OS and completely offline. No updates, no accounts or firewalls, no hassle. Somewhere in the corner a cheap laptop for the dangerous online jobs and a complete isolated studio to work in forever. That is my future, mark my words ![]()
… for rent; precisely the reason to seek a Linux option.
… as long as you keep paying.
Sure, but our DAWs also don’t come for free ![]()
I’m clearly with you on this. But what we want is not always what we get. I don’t know anyone who wants subscription models, but it still catches on over time. Even if through the back door, see the development of Studio One. I don’t think it will happen at Steinberg in the near future, but what would we do if Cubase was only available by subscription in the future? Who of us would stay, who would leave?
I’m running FreeBSD on one of my older Macs, and I really wish that Linux had worked its way forward. There was a time a few years ago when I thought that was possible, but today the Linux landscape has become so confusing and complicated that I don’t think Linux makes sense in music production anymore. Just look at how Presonus limits their Linux version to Ubuntu with Wayland. One of the problems we have with Linux.
On the contrary, it’s never been easier to use Linux in music production if you keep things simple. There are more DAWs and plugins available, and I can get a Linux machine up and running with Bitwig, Reaper, Tracktion, Harrison Mixbus, and others in a fraction of the time it would take me to do so with Windows. Not to mention Yabridge is working better than ever for running many Windows plugins on Linux. I do it every day.
Having said that, Linux is still Linux, highly decentralized, and it’s like herding cats sometimes, and you will get a million ways to do things and a million suggestions of “what it is the right way” to do things. If you get confused by all that, then I understand your concern. It’s part of Linux life. Just ignore it though. A bog standard Ubuntu or Linux Mint will run most DAWs great out of the box. There is no need to get under the hood and tweak things endlessly if you don’t want to. It’s shockingly plug-and-play for the basics.
If you want to optimize down to then Nth degree, then of course you’ll be wading into the weeds. It’s not needed today though. I can go from bare metal to a basic Ubuntu or Linux Mint + Bitwig (or Reaper or Ardour or Tracktion, etc.) in literally a few minutes with very usable performance, stability, and latency.
This is still a beta, and Presonus is still new at this. Give it some time to mature, and that is if they ever finish the beta. (Crossing fingers.) Keep in mind they are planning for the future with Wayland, which is a smart thing to do, since it is becoming default in the major common distros. So given that future reality, even if the BETA is presently a pain in the neck in some situations, it’s to be expected. Just don’t use it yet if you don’t want to deal with it. Again, beta. Again, they’re new at this. Frankly it will be at least a year or two more before I’d use it for production. MAYBE. Use one of the other more mature Linux DAWs. And BTW, you might be happy to know that even Presonus realizes this to an extent and for 7.0 they released a Flatpak version of the installer. That bodes well. Again, YMMV, but this is a good step forward.
And BTW, this is yet another reminder to some people why Linux is looking more and more attractive. Let’s see if Microsoft flip-flops again on this, and what regulators in some jurisdictions say re: the privacy regulations that Microsoft may be violating. In any case, whatever happens, this will be yet another motivator for some people to switch to Linux. As of right now, half my computers in the studio run Linux, and I’m looking forward to 100% in the future.
Thank you. My problem is I don’t want to use Bitwig, nor do I want to use any of the other DAWs. So if I made the switch to Linux I would have to change my DAW also. I also don’t want to use MuseScore for notation for reasons that have been discussed endlessly. If I was to run a pure recording studio with real instruments, no problem. But with VSTi, nope, I’m used to several things that I use regularly, none of which will run in Linux. I never managed to get anything going that needs online activation, there we go.
So please wake me up when Cubase is on Linux, but only when I can use my Plugins ![]()
alright!
Sure, I understand – so that’s why we’re here hoping Steinberg is paying attention and will consider supporting Linux.
And to be clear, I’m not pushing people to some other DAW, that’s not my point. I happen to love Bitwig, but obviously it’s not a direct replacement for Cubase, and there’s a reason why I’ve bought and use almost all the Steinberg products.
My hope is that Steinberg will one day support Linux. But I’m also realistic. At some point, I’m switching 100% to Linux but that will likely be a gradual process for me, since I rely on other apps and plugins that are only on Win/Mac right now too. So for now, I have a mixture of machines, OSes, DAWs, etc… It’s a little crazy sometimes, but I really like supporting Linux developers in the hopes that the market continues to grow. Some projects I can do entirely on Linux, but of course, there are some plugins/apps that I need so I can’t go 100% Linux yet. Other people are already 100% there, and I’m maybe a little envious that they can do it, but my projects or clients often require things that won’t run on Linux, so I’m kind of stuck in a hybrid world for now, but I choose to do it this way so I’m not complaining.
Yes, it’s hit and miss. Not everything I need is native and not everything works with Yabridge/Wine, etc. It will take time. But in 2024 we’re way beyond where we were several years ago. The progress is indeed slow, but overall positive. Stay optimistic!
Cheers!
I also do need notation software, and there is no way that I would use MuseScore or Lilypond. So there is unfortunately not much hope left, bc. I would need Cubase and Dorico (and still Finale) to run on Linux. But I think that’s Science Fiction, it’s not going to happen, ever.
We can dream, can’t we? But still, good luck with your Linux setup, fingers crossed!
I already ditched the Mac OS ecosystem years ago and now on Windows: CPU consuming telemetry, poor UX/UI choices, forced AI features, very little customization (you can’t even move the taskbar to top and sides anymore, see “Bring back the ability to move the taskbar to the top and sides of the screen on Windows 11” on Feedback Hub), and inexistent customer support are some of the reasons why I’m switching to Linux on my new laptop.
I will have to take some compromises and to give up some software that I love, including Nuendo and RME TotalMix, but since I’m no longer forced to use Windows because I don’t do commercial film post-production anymore and now I have a choice, I will switch to some Linux-friendly DAW like Reaper or Studio One. When Steinberg, which I consider a great company, will consider to port their software to Linux, they will have my money back.
Hello, I have been a Cubase user for many years, I like the Linux operating system and I would really like to be able to have Cubase native for Linux, I ask the developers to take into account the thousands of Linux users who would like to be able to have Cubase in Linux, Reaper does it very well and presonus also has it, I hope soon we will have our version of the wonderful Cubase running on Linux.
I would personally like to see Microsoft support and license ‘Developer’ ecosystems, affording established special interest developers (such as Steinberg) the mandate to create and release software to their own licensees to strip out the disruptive bloat and garbage from the standard Windows OS, refining it for mission-specific applications.
I’m sure the same model could apply to other special interest groups for similar reasons.
Other than that, I fear for the future prospects of software and systems wedded to Microsoft, demonstrably hell-bent on data harvesting and surreptitious capitalisation above the interests of users.
Only if you just do mixing and even then playing back audio via an LAN-connection from somewhere in the (cloud-)world would be a bottleneck.
But recording with any decent latency? Playing VSTis? Huge Sample-Libraries?
No way that will ever be in the cloud. We are decades from a LAN/Notwork infrastructure that could pull off 1,5ms latency over the Internet.
I wish steinberg makes its own linux distribution like for exemple Batocera for gaming .
Is it possible ?
It is likely overkill unless you also have some hardware business around the product. Waves does that for their Soundgrid products. It is waves solution to have a platform for their plugins for live usage. You can of course move the system to a dedicated platform that you will know to work. And it might also make some sense for example as a component in Yamaha Nuage system. But I think it would be much more consumer friendly to as software package where you select your other hardware based on your needs.
Software should be portable and cross-platform, period. Today, Nuendo 14 is launching and I’ll not update because it doesn’t run on my operating system. If someone from Steinberg replies to this thread stating that there are plans to release a Linux version in the future, I’ll upgrade to contribute in funding the development, if not… see you when you change idea Steinberg.
It might be a good idea to stick with the other thread you already posted the same thing on. Splitting threads isn’t a good idea, particularly for something that’s important to you.