Cubase import of Musicxml/Dorico Project with layered voice

[nomisllewdor]

@PaulWalmsley

Hi there. If I import a Dorico project where I have used several voices the stem directions of those voices are respected and the layout in the score editor looks as it did in Dorico.

However if I copy track data from one of these imported tracks in order to assign to a new instrument in the same cubase file the stem directions get rearranged with some upward stems reversed and likewise downward stems also reversed when the new track is viewed in the score editor. I suspect this might be because internal copies of track data to a new instrument is relying on midi rather than musicxml copying!?

Would the work around for this to be to duplicate whole tracks rather than doing copy and paste using their internal track data? Unlikely I guess as one track is imported musicxml which won’t duplicate into an instrument track - some data conversion or copy and paste is necessary.

Thanks for any help.

Imported musicxml file in Cubase 14 score editor

Score editor view after imported file has been copied to a new instrument track in the same Cubase 14 file.

I took a look at the colour s of the voices. I have two voices in the bass clef and the stems on the down stem voice seem to get reversed when the imported musicxml file gets copied into a new instrument track in Cubase 14.

Does not seem to be happening in the treble clef though

This is the file as it was originally in Dorico 5

SOLUTION - I seem to have solved this for myself. If you muddle up the upstem and downstem voices in Dorico (which is possible to do by changing the default stem direction in Dorico) the initial import of musicxml or Dorico project will look OK in Cubase 14 vis a vis stem directions. However any subsequent copying of the imported track into a new instrument track seems to result in cubase resorting the voices into the correct display of upstem and downstem voices. (This explanation won’t make sense to any non-Dorico users here - but I am leaving my post in just in case anyone else has the same problem)
Thanks

[PaulWalmsley]

Each note doesn’t store the voice direction, it only stores the index into the list of voices for that stave, so if you copy the note to another stave then it will display using the voice index of that track. So if you have changed the voice directions in the first track then you should be able to set the same properties in the other track in Score > Instrument Settings > Voices

[nomisllewdor]

Thanks that’s useful info. I solved my problem by adjusting and swapping the voices in Dorico but is good to know there is a way of adjusting within Cubase as well

One thing I still find a bit strange though is within certain bars the Dorico has this - which is correct against the printed music I am copying…

However either as a dorico project import or a musicxaml import cubase 14 gives this as it’s rendition…

So the bass E on the first beat of the bar is turned into a crotchet from a dotted minum and the rest of the bar is modified with two rests being added in voice 2. (I selected the E - it would still be green if unselected in the cubase e.g.).

Is this to do with quantisation settings or something else?
Much thanks

[nomisllewdor]

@PaulWalmsley

Sorry any thoughts about the last edit I put in above
Thanks muchly

[PaulWalmsley]

It does look like you have a 3rd voice in the left hand, or maybe the 2nd voice that was supposed to be in the right had migrated to the left.