I’m working on a post-production project of a 4 minute trailer. The files I’m working with come from a .AAF import. I started this project in C12 and had no problems.
I recently upgraded to C13 and Cubase keeps changing the project length to 8 days and something. I keep reseting the project duration to 5 minutes and after a bit of editing it reverts to 8 days +.
Furthermore:
The Goto Project End command does nothing.
Zoom Full zooms out so much that I can’t see any event and all my markers are overlapped one on top of the other.
The Overview bar is completely locked up.
The horizontal scroll bar is so sensitive moving it a a few millimeters scrolls the project a few hours.
I was working on this project in C12 and didn’t have this problem. I’m on a schedule to deliver this project and these bugs are slowing me down significantly. Any ideas?
Typically this occurs when some MIDI or Automation data is unintentionally moved or created way out on the timeline. Finding and removing it should fix things. Try putting your cursor at the very end and zooming in to look for anything unexpected.
Another approach is to create a blank Project and use Import Tracks from Project… to bring in each Track one-by-one followed by a Save. When this Project suddenly gets long, you’ve found the culprit - or at least a culprit as there may be several.
When importing, Cubase uses the values last set in Project Setup for the project duration. In case the imported data exceed this length, the project duration will be extended to the length of the imported data plus 1 minute.
Hi all,
Raino correctly pointed to the problem. The AAF import was from Adobe Premier. I selected all the AAF imported files and in the Automation Panel I selected Delete Automation From Selected Tracks and Bingo ! No more 8 days + project duration. Seems like Premier automation screws up projects .
Thanks to all for the suggestions.
Mario
The Goto Project End OK
Zoom Full OK
Markers OK
The Overview Bar OK
The horizontal scroll bar OK
**** UPDATE *****
It wasn’t the automation. There was a data entry error in the MARKERS dialog box. For some unkown reason I typed an 8 in one of the position field of a marker.
My Cubase 13 Pro manifests this problem of restoring Project length following a manual reset by me.
I have no obvious stray markers, but most of my tracks do have automation. Should I give all my track “tale end” automation points terminator status? I’ve tried this but some Projects still confound me.
If there are longer, unused but hidden track versions in the Project, does Cubase take these into account when calculating Project length?
Thanks for clarifying. The culprit in my case then is likely to be hidden track version that I have kept in the Project.
I hardly ever delete anything during the writing and arranging process so they can be much longer than the final Project length.
I suppose a good policy moving forward would be to delete these hidden tracks from the final working copy of the Project.
I accept that, it just triggers my OCD but mainly I like to have an accurate representation of the track on the overview in the upper part of the Arranger screen.
But it’s EXCRUCIATING trying to do anything and when you quickly zoom out, it zooms out literally twice as far as you’d ever need and half of the screen is blank because there’s nothing there, because your 4:00 project keeps getting reset to 8:30.
This is an absolutely stupid “feature” that is also 100% unnecessary. Project length means nothing besides how far out you can zoom. What does it matter if there’s stuff outside of the project length? Stuff can be outside of the locators without the program blowing up.
I get so tired of zooming out to a half empty screen.
Then just delete whatever junk data is at the end and you won’t have this happen. And if it’s happening in multiple Projects fix your Template(s). The solution is entirely under your control. If you choose not to fix it, that’s your call.
That doesn’t fix anything. The project setup has a built-in behavior that doesn’t make sense. The project time expands for multiple reasons. Junk data may have been what this OP’s problem was (there are a lot of these threads) but that’s not what does it for me.
Recording anything (Midi, Audio, etc.) will reset the project time to some unnecessarily long value, even if I’m recording just 3 bars at the beginning of the project. Once I’m done, the whole project will go from 4:00 to 8:30 or even longer.
I would entertain that notion but this has just always happened for me over 4 different versions of Cubase from 10 to 13. It’s basically already described in this other thread:
At this point we almost have to assume it’s some intentional weirdness by the developers—it would be far from the first time they just did not have their finger on the pulse of everyday human logic.
When I try to diagnose an issue, I try any logical option I can think of and that includes Safe Mode.
Safe Mode is an option that by trying, you can eliminate…yet it doesnt appear you or anyone in that other thread has even tried.
Safe Mode is generally “trashing preferences” and isolating 3rd party plugs. Apilogies in advance if that insults your intelligence.
Im not at all suggesting it cures the issue. But its something that apparently you have not tried over all these versions you have used?
Next I would review the post you linked plus this post. My conclusion is that it does not affect very many users. Otherwise many others would chime in with the affirmative. And some of those users posts are many years old. Are they still happening today with those same users?
Therefore, i would conclude there is something on your end, as well as those users who have experienced same or similar issues.
Sorry I cant think where else to start other than above. You are on Windows 10 and ill assume the latest Cubase version?
Edit: if you trash preferences, always remember to re-name all prior Cubase versions.