When using rhythmic cues for creating lead sheets with specific chord hits, I’m running into a problem where the cue displaces the rests on the line below.
I’ve seen a solution to this here, where you manually set the position of each rest. When dealing with many cues across a large project, this gets quite tedious.
I’m wondering if there is a way to prevent rests from being displaced by default? Or some other solution to make this less error prone / quicker for large projects? Demo project reproducing the above screenshot below.
IIRC, you can place one rest correctly (using the Properties Pane), then “R”(epeat) it with the same settings. Perhaps this solves some of your passages.
Thanks Mats. I think that’d work here for a simplified example with nothing but whole note rests. I’m looking for a solution that simplifies this for a part with lots of notes. To put another way, how can I handle when cues throw off the placement of many rests of different duration in a part without manually setting the position of each rest.
Hey Mats, thanks for your reply. While adding a note there does work in the example you posted, there are many other cases where rests are incorrectly displaced. It is not just whole note rests. I’ve reproduced this with half note, eighth note and sixteenth note rests. Updated example and project attached.
It’s also worth noting that the rests are not uniformly displaced. They seem to move based on the note after the rest. You can see this in the example where multiple eighth note rests are displaced, but by different amounts.
I’m not going to debate the cause, but you can reset the rest position in a single operation.
Select all the tenor sax and set the rest position property…
Thanks for the reply Janus. That’s definitely what I’m looking for. Strangely I don’t see that property with the same content selected. Is there a setting that might be off on my end? I only see the rest position when selecting individual rests.
The only downside is if you show all properties the panel gets hard to navigate (there are a lot of properties!)
If you use show only common properties you will need to filter your selection… in this case filter (select)>rests... to isolate the rests.
Super helpful, thanks Janus. That worked for me. The only remaining quirk I can find with that solution is that the whole note rests are misplaced. The end up hanging from the 3rd line instead of the 4th.
Your workaround simplifies things substantially from what I was doing. Now I’d just need to go through and select the whole note rests to set their position properly. If there’s a way to quickly fix the whole note rests as well that I’m missing, please let me know.
Separately from the workaround, cues displacing rests does seem like unintended behavior in Dorico. It can result in some pretty wacky formatting for rests by default. It’d be great if this could eventually be patched (or optional if intentional) as I’m sure others run into the same issue with cues.
I’m aware. I was pointing out that you still need to go through and set the whole note rest positions properly, meaning this isn’t a single operation solution as you mentioned above.
