Lately when playing back in cycle mode, on cycling back to the start of the loop I get a loud brief screech sound that is really bad on my ears and monitors so I have to disable the cycle mode and manually return the transport by pressing numeric 1 key, or fear damaging ears and monitors.
On investigation, I’ve narrowed it down to 1 Halion instrument track that clips to full fader volume at point of recycling but when cycle mode is off there is no clipping at all - normal volume (-10 output fader).
Has anyone else found this issue and solved it please?
If not I will try to workaround it by bouncing to audio and hope that resolves it.
Hi!
Thank you! You are right! Just on that point at the end of the cycle, the volume automation has a slight increase in volume which is fine if not looping but when looping on that point it creates the screech & max fader meter clipping! strange but true!
So the solution is to move the cycle loop end point slightly away from that automation data point!
I wonder if this is common and accepted or a small bug worth reporting to Steinberg. I have had it a lot recently, presumably with lots of automation on those loop points as they are usually verses or choruses etc.
Or you could disarm the automation while looping ? Is there any reason why you have the Automation set to Max volume after the loop , could that be adjusted to suit your needs , like zoom in , place two nodes close together and make a Sharpe automation drop/adjustment ?
Hi, maybe I have not explained properly.
My automation only takes the volume from -7 to -2 so goes nowhere near the max fader of +6 whilst playing without the loop cycle activated.
The bug is when the loop cycle is activated and the end of the loop is exactly on that increase data point that it seems to create a clipping itself. Deactivate the loop cycle and there is no volume increase above -2.
The logical explanation would be that it follows the volume increase line but hasn’t detected where the increase stops - the -2 data point is perhaps a micro-second after the loop end.
See the ruler bar starts purple (cycle on) with clipping, then grey (cycle off) with no clipping.
The best solution if you use markers for quick slection of verses/choruses etc. is actually to move the end data point fractionally forward within the cycle loop (worked fine just now).
Ahh yes well ,that’s most probably because the patch isn’t time sync’ed ? So you are not Zero crossing the waveform on the loop , depending on the patch can you tempo sync/beat sync or adjust the sound via the warp in Halion it’s self ? Or just shorten the EG to make the sound finish earlier ?
Unfortunately I’ve not had the time yet to dive into the Halion inner workings so I’m not sure about ‘warp’ or setting the patch to tempo beat/sunc beat (I’ve attached a screenshot with settings page on in case that tells you anything).
However, I dragged the end of the MIDi event shorter but that moved the automation points as expected so I still had the screech issue, but when I place the two lower & higher automation points in the same vertical axis, that stops the issue because there’s no volume increase ‘slope’ for Cubase to extrapolate because it sees the volume increase as instantaneous so maybe my best action moving forward is to ensure all volume increases have the higher and lower data points on the same vertical axis (unless I need a slow volume change of course).
