Hi Daniel,
As a test of Dorico and that of the fingering added in version 1.2 I’ve tried to input the first few bars of Chopin’s Ballade No.1 in G minor.
I’ll do my best to explain the issues…
This is a (original?) copy…
This is within Dorico without editing…
The issues I’m having is that the fingering position on the last note of a beamed group (because it’s, I assume, related to the note head) are placed completely away from the previous fingering positions.
Issue 1. The B’s on the left hand with fingering notation of 2 in Bar 1 and Bar 2 are misaligned.
Issue 2. The slur from Bar 1-3 cuts through the fingering notation (5) on the F# of Bar 2.
Issue 3. The position of the aforementioned C (fingering 5) is curiously placed.
Obviously, I could edit these to look like this…
Issue 1. Y offset to -3
Issue 2. Y offset to -1
Issue 3. Y offset to -5/8
Slur manually adjusted.
The voicing is as follows…
I used cross-staffed to avoid notation of the rest in Bar 1 (I’ve noticed I could have done the same for Bar 3).
QUESTIONS:
- Is there an issue with the fingering position for the last note of a beamed group?
- Is the fingering (5) for the first note (C) in Bar 2 of the right hand meant to be positioned like that?
- Do slurs recognise and avoid fingering notation?
OBSERVATION:
I appears the fingering positioning algorithm is relative to the note head, thus, in the example above, the first 3 notes can’t be moved closer because of the beam, however, as the stem of the last note in Bar 1 - and the last note in the first group of notes in Bar 2 - are to the left, it appears the fingering notation is relative to the note head, as well as a fixed distance from the staff.
Conversely, this would seem to explain why the fingering of the first note C on the right hand (5) is positioned where it is… stem on the right, though determined by the distance of the staff.
SUGGESTIONS:
- The fingering notation of the last note of a beam group of notes should be relative to the beam.
- An option to align the X position of the fingering notation to the stem OR the note head.
Note: Whilst this may not be correct, it would give flexibility to faithfully reproduce the original image.
- IF Dorico COULD recognises the fingering as an attribute of the note COULD there be an option to align the fingering on beamed notes relative to the beam. This would mean that moving the beam would move the fingering in relation to the beaming.
Issue: At the moment, when the beam is adjusted in ENGRAVE mode ALL fingering positions remain static, which in turn means manually moving every fingering notation on every affected note.
It is very possible I don’t understand Dorico well enough and as such NONE of the above is a criticism.
Kind regards
Darren
P.S How do I slur the left hand? It won’t align what-so-ever