Deleting Notes Ruins Everything

How come when I delete notes it will also send their associated rhythms into the nethersphere instead of turning them into rests? The terrible consequence of this is that my entire score will shift by a beat and it is INFURIATING. This isn’t consistent… I have been playing around with the “start voice/end voice” toggle to accomodate rhythmic notation and standard notation in the same measure, and I suspect this is the culprit but have no idea how to fix this problem. I honestly have no idea why this even exists in the first place. In all my years of score writing I have NEVER wanted this to be a possibility.

Please help.

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Do you have Insert mode enabled in the left toolbar?

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If this is enabled, then deleting a note will delete that amount of time and shift everything which follows. If it’s disabled, then deleting a note will replace it with a rest.

You generally want to have Insert mode off, but there are absolutely times when it’s useful.

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Another thing to remember is that rests are not objects. In Dorico, they are just the gaps between notes. Normally Dorico will notate these gaps in the most readable way possible, that is: not following the note values that may have been there before (TBH, I’d find that very irritating), but just the general beat structure of the current time signature, which makes sense most of the time. You can always move your insertion point (AKA caret) to wherever you want, also in the middle of a longer rest. No need to have the rest in any rhythmic configuration beforehand.

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Oh wow, I completely feel your frustration. That behavior is so unpredictable and can really mess up a score in seconds. I’ve run into similar inconsistencies before, and it’s maddening how something so counterintuitive exists after all these years of score writing.

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On the contrary - it is entirely predictable. (And non-destructive - just ctrl-Z to back out of unwanted changes)

You just need to get your head around how Insert Mode works (much of the time you do not want to use it!!)

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It does sound like insert mode is on! It’s an extremely powerful function, but it can cause significant destruction if you’re not aware of it being on. It can definitely cause a shock - it did for me the first time this happened.

The best approach if you notice this happening is to press ctrl-z and turn insert mode off by pressing i.

At the right times, it’s an extremely useful function to have.

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Thanks for the responses everyone, insert mode was indeed the culprit!

That behavior is so unpredictable and can really mess up a score in seconds

I’m with you on that, the insert mode has a lot of bugs or inconsistencies (especially with tuplets, rests, voices, and the stop bar) and the undo feature is helpful but not always a solution because sometimes the destruction occurred a while ago without noticing. Here one topic where I reported some of the issues. I’m still at version 5, I’m hoping these bugs were fixed in Dorico 6.