Hi, my question seems simple, but I can’t find a solution while working on a worksheet for piano students. How can I write different fingerings for the right hand (above) and the left hand (below)? There’s no reason to write it on two different staves, as that would double the number of pages.
Is the only way to create a second voice in unison, add another fingering, and then hide the noteheads and stems? Or would using the text tool be a better option? Both seem quite time-consuming…
To make the fingering in the second voice appear below the notes, you might need to type L before the fingering number (in the popover). This forces it to think it is a left hand fingering
Using Lyrics could possibly work too. I had to set Engraving Options / Lyrics / Minimum distance to negative values to get this, then just copied and pasted glyphs from the SMuFL site. You can obviously further tweak the positioning if you don’t want the Lyric line aligned.
Thank you very much for all your answers. Referring to Dorico Team directly I would suggest - some kind of Option in popover like 1R/5L or similar could be so beautiful solution saving a lot of time..
Being able to assign more than one adjustable finger number per note is something that I have requested since Dorico 1. Since I need to assign alternative fingerings frequently, and they need to be positionable in various locations–my work-around is a simple one that handles all situations. Create a playing technique for each finger number and input it for extra finger numbers as you would any playing technique .
Dear John, your solution has an advantage, as there is no need to create or fake a second voice. However, I am not quite sure I fully understand how it works. When creating a new playing technique, I need to choose a font style, but I couldn’t find one that exactly matches the font Dorico uses for fingering. Is there a way to control the distance between those new created playing technics and the stave? I couldn’t find any settings for that. Thank you for your help in advance.
And as for positioning it from the staff. As far as I know, this has to be done the old fashioned way; by hand and eye. However, you will find this satisfying. And hand-eye activities are brain-strengthening and I think act as an antidote to too much reliance on machine intelligence.
For aligning things, I use an app called Free Ruler since Dorico doesn’t provide guide lines. And in a piece of music the lower finger numbers in your example wouldn’t be aligned but stay equidistant from the note heads and stems. But you may prefer aligning them for educational reasons.
Of course, there will always be something you have to adjust manually. Anyway, it would still be great if I could set a “green” distance for my playing technique to be the same as the “red” default setting. Unfortunately, I couldn’t find a way to do it.
I do not really understand what this setting is for. No matter how I set it, the position/distance relative to the stave won’t change. Please help me understand.
@mipi Those numbers only show the displacement of the glyph from the origin of the X and Y axis in the editing frame and are only useful when you are putting several glyphs together in the frame. They have no bearing on the position of the playing technique when you input it into the music. (I had the same misunderstanding when I first used the Playing Technique editor.)
To actually move the glyph over in the music involves a workaround in which one can add padding around the glyph in the editing frame; that is, a blank glyph before it or over it etc. to make a composite that fools Dorico into changing the position of the glyph you want displayed.
But I don’t think that this is going to work for your purpose.
Hi, following your answers, I created a playing technique, and I think it’s the best way to proceed in my case. Anyway, I would like to report a Dorico bug. I created a playing technique for all five fingers (see the GIF). The popover shortcut is the same as the number of the finger. Using the popover, I can input all the fingers except finger 1. I can’t understand why. The only way to input it is with the mouse. All other fingers as a playing technique work perfectly. Could you help me please to understand?
I am experiencing the same, @mipi . The popover doesn’t input 1. It does input the other numbers and it also inputs 1 in combination with other symbols. I’ve never noticed this because I use the mouse for alternative fingering since I will need to use the mouse to position it correctly.
Why is the 1 misbehaving? I have no idea. Perhaps another user can check into to this?
Did all of this, but continue to have the same issues as well with fingerings. I want to be able to customize my fingerings to be above or below the staff as I do many educational string exercises. This way allows for immense customizations, but nothing near the input efficiencies of Finale.
I’d love to be able to type “x1” and that appears above or whatever text I assigned to the fingering. Been trying to get that out of Dorico for several months with no avail.
Dorico knows what has been done, but not what will be done. Music is a living, changing language and so is its notation. Notational software needs to be very flexible to deal with that.
