I’m trying to transcribe the the bass guitar in the 1st image. 2nd image is Dorico. Theoretically, if it was a dotted and not an accent, how would I disable forced ties to the next bar?
I don’t want it to cross over to the next bar
Using a 2nd voice, Dorico still forces it to cross to the second measure.
Which notation option is this?
(I’m aware that the original used accents and and not note dotted notes but I would still like to know in the future, in case I want to tell a player to hold one note whilst playing another)
I’m aware that the original used accents and and not note dotted notes but I would still like to know in the future, in case I want to tell a player to hold one note whilst playing another
You’ve entered the second A as a dotted eighth (and the final G in the bar as well), causing the subsequent notes to shift by a sixteenth.
Select the A and with Insert mode (shortcut I) active, press 5 (or whatever key you’ve assigned to an eighth note value) to turn it back into an undotted eighth. Do the same for the G. Remember to deactivate Insert mode right after! To add the staccato, press ].
Folks are trying to tell you that you have entered the third note incorrectly; the note should not have a dot on it.
With insert mode (i) on, select the third note and press 5 to change it to an ordinary, undotted, eighth note. The notes to the right should slide over. Youmay need to also select the final note of the measure, if it still ties over into the next measure, and also press 5 while that note is selected.
I’m having trouble following what you want exactly. Do you want to enter more notes in a bar than the time signature allows?
If you enter more notes than fit in a bar according to the time sig, the remaining note value gets pushed to the next bar. In your example you entered a dotted eighth note when there was only a sixteenth left in the bar. The remaining eighth (the part of your note that won’t fit in the bar) gets pushed to the next bar and because you entered it as one note, it is tied to the last note of the preceding bar. If you enter it as one note, Dorico treats it as one note. If you don’t want the tie, enter just a sixteenth note value.
However, since the tie in your example is really a symptom and not a cause, I’d suggest you try to carefully follow the steps that mutiple people have described. They will solve your issue. Also, a staccato dot is not the same as a rhythm dot.
Yes. As this is an instrument that can sustain a note. If Dorico can already tie it to the next bar, I don’t see why I can’t force duration across the bars with the equivalent dotted value.
There are many instruments that can sustain notes, and to my knowledge none of them require paradoxically incorrect notation to make this clear. Especially a rhythm section instrument like bass guitar is easily sabotaged by bars not adding up. If you can find a reputably published example of this notation, I’d be very curious to see it.
If you want to specify the exact length of the sustained note, you will need a tie across the barline. End of discussion.
If you just require the note to ring out indefinitely, you should use an LV tie:
If you really reallyreally want a dotted note there you should at least make the total rhythm add up, including the contents of the next bar. That way it’s only incorrect instead of incorrect and paradoxical. There’s a reason Dorico makes this difficult. Use a 3:3x tuplet spanning the barline, hide it, manual rebeaming:
I appreciate the effort in your response and giving another tuplet solution.
However I will not be Jedi mind tricked with your fancy words and appeal to authority. Here is a picture of the paradoxical notation in a DAW.
From 500 years ago or today, If I put a dot next to that eigth note on a sheet of paper, regardless if it’s standard or acceptable or not, everyone knows what I mean.
I am just disappointed Dorico doesn’t allow for the option for even a manual input in engrave mode and give me the right to be wrong. The notes are already tied? A dotted option is the same thing
And the reason it’s difficult from my guess is because of the MIDI playback function.
As a lifelong musician I can assure you that I, and every other musician I know, would, if they encountered “a dot next to that eighth note on a sheet of paper,” assume that the engraver had made a mistake and NOT carry that note into the next measure.
Notation conventions exist for good reasons, and no, in this case, a dotted option is most definitely NOT the same thing as a tie. Dorico is quite justified in not making this easy for you.
The use of a dot to extend a duration across a barline stopped being used in the early 1700’s. And to use it today would cause any musician to wonder if it was a misprint.
As shown by others Dorico does allow you notate this, so please curb your disappointment.
