Hello, after just having updated to version 3.1 (thank you) I am working on a piece by Eisler with german instrument names. So instead of renaming all instruments in Setup Mode I decided to change the language of the instrument names from english to german in the Engraving Options (before adding new instruments). What a mess!! This is hardly usable at all! I could not set up a Klarinette in Bb (Clarinet in B) nor could I find a simple Horn in F. What is going on there? Why have heaps of wrong and bad translations instead of no translations at all? I donât understand. Why so little care on these really basic things? Or do I have my system totally messed up?
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We are aware of problems with translations for the transpositions of instrument names in German, of course, which are long-standing and need to be fixed. But Iâm not aware of lots of translation errors in the names of the instruments themselves. Do you have any specific examples?
Daniel,
as an example I could not find a simple Contrabass/Double Bass, (in German âKontrabaĂâ). I had to choose one of the Double Bass variants and ended up with a bass guitarâŚ
I tried to set up a âKlarinette in Bbâ (or âKlarinette in Bâ - in German it is commonly called âB-Klarinetteâ).
I only found âClarinet (H Be)â which is the weirdest thing I have ever seen 
Same for âHorn in Fâ, it does not exist in this simple form.
May be translation problems arise if an instrument is notated transposed - and Dorico with best intention tries to combine pure text translation with a function.
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k_b,
I cannot confirm your bad experience with instrument names in German. Maybe things are messed up when you run Dorico with the main language set to Englisch and the instrument names set to German.
Iâm using Dorico with the main language set to German and the Instrument names set to German. I can easily add players named âBb Klarinetteâ, âF Hornâ or âKontrabassâ.
In layout names the transposition is âwrongâ: Klarinette (B Be) should be âKlarinette in Bbâ or âBb Klarinetteâ (b = flat symbol).
As the setting for instrument names is located in Engraving Options I have to choose âGermanâ for every single new document. Perhaps there should be a global setting for the default instrument names language.
Thomas
Thomas, you could save your Engraving Options as default, couldnât you?
How could I forget this? Thank you for reminding me, Leo.
Thomas
Thomas,
which publisher uses flat or sharp sign with German instrument names? If you look at classical scores from, Beethoven, Bruckner, Mahler, Mendelssohn and others, you will find âKlarinette in Bâ, âHorn in Esâ etc.
Thatâs what I would like to write Dorico by default with German instrument names.
Additional information: In Japanese convention regarding orchestral sheet music, they prefer German standards in lieu of the US / Canada / UK / Australian one. However, vice versa in Jazz / Pop / Rock music areas.
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you are right, SikiSuen.
I have a similar problem but in Spanish. I want to write Clarinet (B flat) in Spanish. So, in Setup mode, I edited the playerâs name. The name in the score continues to be in English. So I go to Engraving options and set instrumentsâ names to Spanish. I still get the English Bb in the names, although I could edit Clarinet to Clarinete. To finally be able to write âClarinete (si bemol)â I had to go to setup, click each player, then click the instrument name below, click the small arrow that opens a menu and select Edit names⌠THEN set Show Transposition to none and write everything in the instrument name.
Is there another way to do it? Am I missing something?
Transpositions in staff labels is a Layout Option. Turn it off there rather than for each individual instrument.
As to renaming instruments, itâs the instrument youâd need to rename, not the player. Changing the language in Engraving Options will affect newly created instruments but not ones that already exist in the project, but you can manually reset existing instrument names.