# Dorico 3 Pro and guitar tab grace note size. **URL:** \ **Category:** Dorico\ **Created:** [September 30, 2019, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/dorico-3-pro-and-guitar-tab-grace-note-size/134096 "2019-09-30T11:31:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Nick\_Hollings](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/nick_hollings/32/94164_2.png) [@Nick\_Hollings](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Nick_Hollings)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/dorico-3-pro-and-guitar-tab-grace-note-size/134096/1 "2019-09-30T11:31:34Z")
I am on the cusp of moving to Dorico from Finale after 20 years. The only thing that is really stopping me is whether I am able to have control of the font size on the guitar tab stave independently of the notation stave. I do not want my grace notes to be reduced to 60% of their original size. Feedback from teaching and lecturing for over 20 years has been emphatic that the reduced size of grace note numbers renders them virtually illegible. I have full independent control in Finale. If there isn’t a global control, is there a workaround? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![dan\_kreider](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/dan_kreider/32/254871_2.png) [@dan\_kreider](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/dan_kreider)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/dorico-3-pro-and-guitar-tab-grace-note-size/134096/2 "2019-09-30T14:27:10Z")
Edit: apologies, I missed the fact that you were asking for grace note size independent from the regularly-notated staves. SeeWhat is right that it’s not possible. ---
**Author:** ![SeeWhat](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/seewhat/32/801_2.png) [@SeeWhat](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/SeeWhat)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/dorico-3-pro-and-guitar-tab-grace-note-size/134096/3 "2019-09-30T14:54:00Z")
clarityinchaos unfortunately there is no way (yet) to set a different font size for grace notes in tab they are linked > **[tablature font size prebend & grace note](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/tablature-font-size-prebend-grace-note/133337)** > > It would be great to have all smaller tab nbs (prebends, grace notes) an Engraving rules size entry. they are really too small for my taste at the moment. also, in the bottom panel, it would be very useful to be allowed to set the size of those... ---
**Author:** ![Nick\_Hollings](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/nick_hollings/32/94164_2.png) [@Nick\_Hollings](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Nick_Hollings)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/dorico-3-pro-and-guitar-tab-grace-note-size/134096/4 "2019-09-30T15:06:59Z")
Very disappointing. The default grace notes on tab staves are illegible to anybody with less than 20/20 vision ---
**Author:** ![dan\_kreider](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/dan_kreider/32/254871_2.png) [@dan\_kreider](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/dan_kreider)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/dorico-3-pro-and-guitar-tab-grace-note-size/134096/5 "2019-09-30T15:39:53Z")
> [@clarityinchaos](#): > > Very disappointing. The default grace notes on tab staves are illegible to anybody with less than 20/20 vision Guitar tab has been available for what, three weeks? Give it a chance. Development pace is fast, and there will doubtless be updates to tab functionality in the near future. ---
**Author:** ![SeeWhat](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/seewhat/32/801_2.png) [@SeeWhat](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/SeeWhat)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/dorico-3-pro-and-guitar-tab-grace-note-size/134096/6 "2019-09-30T16:50:49Z")
I agree with Dan I fully trust the adjustments to be done. But it is important to describe and tell what we, as pro guitar players, transcribers and teachers need in details ---
**Author:** ![Nick\_Hollings](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/nick_hollings/32/94164_2.png) [@Nick\_Hollings](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Nick_Hollings)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/dorico-3-pro-and-guitar-tab-grace-note-size/134096/7 "2019-10-01T12:07:55Z")
I appreciate that Dorico 3 with tab has only just been released and subsequent revisions might address this but it seems an oversight not to have allowed independent control over tab note size. Is there any way of individually resizing the grace notes on the tab stave to their original size after the event? I can’t explore this myself until the demo version is made available. ---
**Author:** ![dspreadbury](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/dspreadbury/32/328687_2.png) [@dspreadbury](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/dspreadbury)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/dorico-3-pro-and-guitar-tab-grace-note-size/134096/8 "2019-10-01T12:09:25Z")
You can’t, I’m afraid, because the ‘Custom scale’ property is not variable between staff notation and tablature. However, I spent some time adding the necessary new option last night, so we can say with certainty that a future update will definitely include an option to change the scale factor for grace notes independently between staff notation and tablature. ---
**Author:** ![Romanos](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/romanos/32/1687_2.png) [@Romanos](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Romanos)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/dorico-3-pro-and-guitar-tab-grace-note-size/134096/9 "2019-10-01T12:34:38Z")
That’s what I call Grade A service! ---
**Author:** ![TopDots](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@TopDots](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/TopDots)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/dorico-3-pro-and-guitar-tab-grace-note-size/134096/10 "2019-10-01T12:44:14Z")
Ditto - what fantastic support! ---
**Author:** ![SeeWhat](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/seewhat/32/801_2.png) [@SeeWhat](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/SeeWhat)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/dorico-3-pro-and-guitar-tab-grace-note-size/134096/11 "2019-10-01T13:30:53Z")
Merci beaucoup Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Nick\_Hollings](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/nick_hollings/32/94164_2.png) [@Nick\_Hollings](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Nick_Hollings)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/dorico-3-pro-and-guitar-tab-grace-note-size/134096/12 "2019-10-01T14:00:36Z")
That’s great news Daniel. This is the reason I’m changing from Finale! They abandoned doing anything for guitarists years ago. You can’t even add a X ghost note to tab staves without going through an incredibly long winded approach on a note by note basis! Very impressed by your commitment and involvement with end users. Thank you.