Dorico 5 wishlist

I see this will become a long thread.

But can I plus one playback of ornaments including the baroque ones? And while on that, please add an option for playback of ‘tr’ to start on the note above the principal note, as was practice at certain times around baroque era.


Glissando playback for strings at least, please Mr Dorico!

I am aware this is a hard problem.


#1 feature request is for a video export feature or mode (scrolling score). Basically, either something like the Print tab, but let it scroll fluidly with playback and be exportable as a high-res movie. Or else (and preferably) a way to export Galley view with a scrolling playhead. (Yes I know there are a few limitations with Galley view so I’m really asking for a hybrid between Write>Galley and Print, and make it exportable as a movie. You have no idea how many YouTube videos I would create once this feature is in place.


I was sort of hoping for something really simple and basic. Finale, for example, has some very basic stats in File Info like measures, “active frames,” etc., although I can’t say I’ve really ever used any of those as I’ve never billed by frame before. I’ve handed off most of my straight up copying work at this point except for a few high profile clients, but I somehow still end up doing a bunch of cleanup work either natively or via XML. A way to reset a clock and have it record time that the program is in the foreground with a certain file open would certainly be useful for me anyway. I suppose page counts are probably too complicated for Dorico to be much help with, at least with the complicated Local 802 rules.

@FredGUnn see:

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Many of these things are small improvements on existing features, albeit them being very well put.

The thing that totally is missing in Dorico now though is a solution for contemporary music practices, which leads to a lot of composers not using it (yet), or only for part of their projects.
This is a blind spot for Dorico currently, and I think this should be fixed with higher priority just to provide a broad and complete Notation Software.

Things would be:

  • Cut out scores (this is the most important one!)
  • Aleatoric boxes (as mentioned)
  • crossbeaming between multiple instruments of the same player
  • conductor symbols (similar to rehearsal marks)
  • more vertical notespacing flexibility (as @FredGUnn mentioned), also around playing techniques
  • custom Notestems
  • easier copying frames in engrave mode
  • Better page template management. I have talked about having a page template “list” already before. We require to make several pages of pre-text before the music starts, for dozens of parts.
  • real “headless noteheads”
  • real polytempo support
  • real irrational meter support
  • fixes in condensing. In my current project, I don’t know on which page I could even use condensing, as there are always some lines, glisses or trills which currently are buggy.
  • EDIT: of course easily changing the amount of staff lines for an instrument should be added.

Honestly, I would be totally ok with Dorico creating leading conventions and aesthetics in this area. Contemporary music has tons of varieties on notating the same principles (aleatoric boxes for example), but what’s needed the most is just a clear way of communicating the intention with the musicians. If Dorico can provide that, I wouldn’t mind about the details of the styles, and I am sure many practicing colleagues wouldn’t either.
Although contemporary composers want to be precise in notation, a lot of them aren’t dogmatic, in contrary to folks from historical music performances.


Totally agree.


I’ll be very curious to see if and how the team goes about addressing and implementing this one. With a few tricks like 0-line staves, the “blank notation” slash workaround I mentioned above, etc, you can get partly there now.

As far as I know there aren’t really easy workarounds to address the bracketing, staff label, clef placement, barlines, and other issues though. Something like this Penderecki seems not really achievable currently.


The possibility to use Divisimate in real time, the same audio quality of dorico 3,5,the possibility to use a piano réduction to send every individual note to the different instruments.
for exemple a C Maj chorus. Right click to décide the c will go to the CB, VC, Basson-the e will go to the Vl1, ALti, clarinette-The g will go to the Vl2, the clarinette 2 etc …
This is the same logic of divisimate but with the piano réduction view …



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  1. Glissando playback please! The lack of it is one of the only two reasons I still use Sibelius for some projects as the players like to have a demo sound file.
  2. The other reason is use of Fermata/Caesura control in playback. I know it’s possible to do some working around on fermatas, but a proper implementation would make a huge difference. Then I could stop using Sibelius altogether.

I think all these suggestions have merit. However, the area that needs to greatest overhaul in my opinion is the layout tab. As good as it is, it can be made far more user friendly with the addition of the following.

  1. Guide lines when dragging frames around to indicate centre of the page, alignment with other objects etc. Think keynote/pages interface.
  2. The ability to copy and paste existing frames.
  3. Ability to automatically change staff size to fit music to a page easily.
  4. Format painter to easily copy font/size from frame to frame.
  5. Addition of tables, geometric shapes, arrows etc for worksheet creation.

I’m sure as soon as I post I’ll think of more layout improvements, but these would be a great start.


I imagine this suggestion has been made before, but it would be handy if the Dorico team could provide a better platform for people to suggest and discuss feature wishlists. Lots of excellent suggestions are made, but it’s difficult to keep track of them on discussion boards, and particularly to know if others have already made similar suggestions. Would be nice if such a platform had some sort of “voting” mechanism too. I recognize that product development isn’t a democratic process, but presumably it’s useful input to the team to know which requests are particularly desirable.

This has been requested and rejected by the development team in the past. I cannot find a post about it right now by Daniel, but they keep an internal list and he rejected a voting system.
From what I remember, the argument was that they follow an internal development plan and adjust it according to user feedback.
They don’t intent to open this up because the general public doesn’t know about the internal plans. But they (evidently) take every feedback very seriously and are reading every post on this forum.


Fermatas and Breath Marks adjustable playback - Having this function in the Properties panel will make our job easier. Currently if we need to recreate the playback of these symbols, we should manually edit the Tempo curve which isn’t the most correct practice.

At this point, add to that “rubato” playback (configurable). This way, the rubato is independent of the tempo parameter. And/or assign a MIDI Learn command or MIDI CC to the tempo parameter so you can record the performance.


Do the ‘sketch’ instruments help? I use them a lot.

Yes the sketch is the same idea, but it is the first idea, but with 4 staves you will ear for exemple: there is too more bass, or i need a note on middle to balance and make a progression behind treble and bass, or again, there is to more treble, i need more bass etc …
With the same sound every where (4 piano part) it is helping really, but if we could earing the réal orchestral sound it will be magic :slight_smile:
And the sketch is for put quikly the idea, on the particella, all the orchestral note are written , ALL !!! on 4 parts. So you can verify the balance of each group separately and together .

As long as you’re prepared to use different voices for each sound (and you can have an unlimited number of voices on each staff) this is already possible via Independent Voice Routing.

you will have the same sound for each voice on the same staff, if we can choose a different midi chanel, or send into a instrument track, all voice in the same staff will have a différente instrument sound …
like a all midi chanel track with a external expander

You’re incorrect. Independent Voice Routing allows you to route each voice on a staff to a different midi channel and a different sound.

Génial !!
Do you know if this solution work with NotePerformer ?