Dorico 6 - Basic omissions

Yes, this would help me too. At the moment, I need to export audio from Dorico and import to Cubase to do the final touches there. That adds a lot to the time taken if I need to make changes to the score.

It would be great if in Cubase I could have a way of dynamically rendering a part that´s maintained in Dorico simply by putting a reference to the player and flow, or perhaps layout and flow, in a special kind of track in Cubase, a kind of Dorico renderer track if you like.

Then I could get the best of both worlds.

Of course, that´s a solution, not a requirement, but the idea would be that I don´t have to export - import anything. Any solution that did that would be great.

This is not a basic omission by the way!

It does appear that this sort of work flow is very much in the works and will mature with time. The coalescence of the score rendering and core audio engines between the two programs is concrete proof of that. Daniel has also alluded as much in interviews that it’s the end goal. Some sort of hybrid workflow is in the works at any rate.

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I would say no, because if you’re putting around at 40 mph in a Lambo, you’re definitely using the wrong tool for the job. It’s trying to use a jackhammer to put a nail into drywall.

That said, this has nothing at all to do with my opinion of whether the Dorico 6 upgrade is “substantial”. I paid for it as soon as I had the chance to do so, and there is zero buyer’s remorse even as I have submitted a possible issue to the team for resolution or at least guidance.

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I’m definitely finding it useful to view a lot of sections at once. And if nothing else, I think I’m going to use it as the cover art for my next album.

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:rofl: I can see that!

hmmm, looks like a Steve Reich album cover I have from long ago.

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I think the better term is empathetic or empathy. What most people prefer is for others to understand them, whether they agree or not, rather than sympathy (feeling pity for another’s misfortune).

One can empathize with the suggested oversights here or one can simply pity the poor %@#$@&$# because their life is ruined because something wasn’t added or corrected in version 6. My initial post back in August 2024 or maybe September 2024, brought me scorn and pity (sympathy) but not much empathy. After pointing that out in slightly different terms, most who suggested I was a prideful idiot became a bit more empathetic for which I was grateful. A few did not so I just don’t pay any attention to them any more. If one wishes to win someone over to a new way of doing things or an improved way (as with version 6), one should do so kindly and gently and with empathy for otherwise we drive away those whom we want in our “camp.”

Being one of the Finale to Dorico crossover users, I am very pleased with Dorico 6. The learning curve for Dorico is steep and I’ve managed to climb that cliff sufficiently to produce quite acceptable scores. This new version made that ability just a bit better.

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How is writing scores on a cinema screen working for you? :joy:

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Thanks Kent for explaining the correct difference between those two old greek terms/English words. In German we use sympathy often (incorrectly) instead of empathy. Empathy feels a bit too personal, even intrusive, on a public forum.

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I still have the same LP (bought it during lunch while studying composition in NY during the late 70’s). One of the best things SR ever did.

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I cannot account for cultural differences in the usage of sympathy vs empathy but I can assure you that empathy is a much more collegial approach than sympathy. Most folks don’t want pity. They do want understanding and that need not be invasive of personal space (physical or emotional). Would you rather I have sympathy for you that empathy feels too personal or invasive or have an understanding of how you or your culture views that word? I would assume the latter. We can certainly agree to disagree if you prefer. Peace always.

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I do agree. Empathy is the art of making the effort to go and watch the world with the same point of view than the folks you’re empathetic with. There’s nothing personal about it, or intrusive.

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Kent, this of course being totally OT, in the German language sympathy has a more positive connotation, it is not often used if you pity someone else, rather if you are empathetic to someone. I know the use is not correct per se, still worth mentioning here.

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Different Trains?

@k_b, understood. All is good.

I assumed Music for 18 Musicians, the original LP.

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Could be. The long horizontal lines just reminded me of trains. But I’m sure you’re right.

I know both original albums and don’t disagree, but this was what I thought was meant:

One of my first Bandcamp album covers was an art piece made by a good friend who lives nearby and who used to be a coworker with me in a Philly-area startup. He took the score of a long piano work of mine and subjected it to some algorithmic processes and I really loved the result. I now have two of his artworks, both based on my scores.

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Completely off topic (for which I apologise) a similar sort of thing goes on with the note-taking/knowledge-management software Obsidian.

Clearly someone forgot to uncheck “Wait for next frame” here. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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