It is possible using latest Dorico with Cubase 15 connected similar to Studio One with Notion? If yes, how it is done and what is possible? I can’t find info about that.
I am asking because I am waiting for Cubase Linear Score View (Gallery view? in Dorico), view that is continuosly linear, same as when you open midi editor in Cubase, you have all midi notes displayed linear not in pages or wrapped under in to one vertical page. Someone mentioned that it will be in one of the update, but until now nothing happened and I am afraid it will be in version 16, if at all.
Btw. I don’t have Dorico and don’t have interest in, but when connection between Cubase will be able, and Dorico can made midi output to Cubase (with all articulation maps playback) with sync with tempo and playback, I reconceride it.
Importing a Docico Project into Cubase acts like an initializer ( at least for me) in that it will reset the project so it’s not the best way when you are still writing/editing. I use Blue cat connector and midi time code to sync (depending on what I am doing) and actually prefer to send audio from Dorico via connector on a send if i am depending on Dorico’s interpretation of a part. I only recently invested in Cubase Pro so I may not be familiar enough with its upgraded use of expression maps though.
The “Music chef” approach is cumbersome to me, but then I remembered that I used long ago a midi loop to connect a Notion with Reaper. It was working well except for large orchestra it does sometimes lost data, because lot of data goes thru. I think I’ll go with this route. When I finish a score I have plan to export it and finish the details (automations - mostly dynamics) in Cubase.
When I imported the Dorico project again a second time into Cubase, It removed all my tracks, instruments - everything I had before. It was like creating a new Cubase project.
Ok, I tested Dorico with Cubase via loopMidi and it working, although I tested only one instrument for quick test. For anyone, if you want try a loopMidi don’t forget deactivate it inside Dorico as input, otherwise you got a loop feedback and it disable created midi port.
We have choices. I would suggest also using an MTC time code code plugin on the Dorico side regardless - to sync up the playback location and transport.
Some other things FWIW: Bluecat is an insert (or send) and has the option to send audio as well as midi. That solves a few pain points for me. I don’t have to work with the DAW all of the time, or alternatively I don’t have to keep switching Dorico instruments around for playback without the DAW. I don’t have to setup instruments twice in both tools. I can group things when it makes sense. It has very good drop compensation/fixing/buffering/latency compensation.
If you decide to try it, be sure in your Cubase studio set up to create inputs for bluecat just like you do for your audio interface. That way, they are ready for every project just like hardware inputs without extra setup each time.
I always use the first method described by @Danix78 as I have a 7.1.4 setup in Cubase and Dorico is stereo only. I use two nearly identical VE Pro templates for all instruments. The only difference being that the Dorico one has MIR on each channel whereas the Cubase one has MIR as special panner on the channels in Cubase. So the same instruments but no expression maps needed in Cubase as the midi already includes dynamics and key switches.
The midi import works smoothly and if your template contains the same instruments and order as in Dorico it is fast and can be automated with a few macros. The Dorico midi tracks are imported below the empty midi tracks already in the template and you just have to cut and paste the midi events from the Dorico tracks to the corresponding empty instrument mid tracks in template. If all is identical that works in one step but in most cases I do it per section (WW, brass, percussion, etc.).
@AudioPilgrim would you with your setup be able to get audio output in whatever format you want (stereo, 7.1.4 etc) from Cubase based on all midi info from Dorico also including the dynamics and key switches while Dorico actually remains “silent”?
I am not sure if I can get any audio format from Cubase while I am using Dorico (I didn’t tried all situations), but for my needs it working now. But I also have Cubase set up to work in background, that means if Cubase window is not active or for whatever reason is set as background by OS, the sound still can come out from Cubase.
According to midi and dynamics and key switches, yes they are working, although I didn’t use keyswitches that really send a keyswitch but control change. But also not tested everything and every situations and also I am very new in Dorico, therefore I can’t say for now if it working at all. Now I have problem with dynamics on piano staff and I have to figure out why (sometimes it works, sometimes didn’t). With dynamics for CC 1 I didn’t had problems, mostly used a single voice instruments like strings. Max instruments I used was 4 for now, that played simultaneously, without problem.
Thanks for trying to help, but I know that. Problem is probably in how I created a keyswitches or keymaps or how it is called. But I am not asking for help now, I wanted to just show my progress and what I’m dealing with.
As @Derrek mentioned the pianos are generally controlled by the velocity. So no key switches or CC values involved but associated directly with the midi note.
While you are technically right, you are wrong in trying to help. I know that. Btw I mean switches not keyswitches, I stated that I am not sure if I call it right. And base switches can have own different dynamics.
I would suggest also using an MTC time code code plugin on the Dorico side regardless - to sync up the playback location and transport.