Dorico + EastWest libraries

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Currently I’m using Dorico + Noteperformer + Cinematic Studio libraries and BBC SO, and all is well

Except I need instruments that EastWest seems to do fairly well

When I read others’ experiences it sounds like using some of the EastWest libraries with Dorico can be problematic, and I’m wondering what that means exactly.

How bad could it be?

Another thing is I would like to run Noteperformer and I guess the other instruments along side it? I have the impression that can be done, just not the foggiest idea how

I have low tech aptitude so easy to get in over my head on any of this so again I’m wondering how bad it could be and what it all entails

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i suspect you need to be more specific here. For full orchestral works, I use the same combination as you and don’t find in general anything particular is missing providing no more specialised articulations or instruments are needed. Which instruments do you need which EWQL supposedly do well and CSS/BBC don’t?

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I’ve used Hoopus and Hollywood Choirs with NPPE and I have no problems. What kind of problems have people experienced?

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If you have the Eastwest subscription you just need to invest in the Noteperformer playback engine.

I have had basically no problems with Eastwest from the Symphony orchestra to present. I use custom templates as well as Noteperformer.

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At this point, just out of curiosity, does running EW Hollywood Choirs through NPPE allow WordBuilder to work smoothly (or as smoothly–so to speak-- as it does when run alone)?
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I dont think its possible to use Wordbuilder because it needs a different patch from the legato ah or oh patches loaded by NPPE.

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Instruments i need would be for Chinese endemble including er hu, gu cheng, yang qin di zi etc which EW seems to do fairly well

Im also looking at marimba and harp libraries and would like to add a good piano likely from VSL and glass harmonica if theres a good one out there

All of which there arent NPPEs for

These are scores from 20-30 years ago and a current solution is to rework them for western instruments which is ok and im covered w libraries i have

Not as useful for presenting something to ensemble players though

As im putting this together I look through posts here and elsewhere to get a sense if it will work gracefully and what it all requires

What I see happening is a hybrid setup w Noteperformer and nonNoteperformer libraries going together which i had the impression will work

Biggest caveat being you know what youre doing

Mainly trying to get a sense of whats involved and whether or how much it will complicate things

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I use hybrid solutions without any problems - the simplest way is just to load up the VSTs directly in Dorico and assign the instruments to them.

You only benefit from creating custom playback templates if you are planning to re-use those configurations in multiple projects.

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Thanks thats encouraging

Im assuming hybrid means w Noteperformer + other nonNP libraries

Question comes to mind is does it need separate software like Kontakt or the EW version in the mix? or does dorico handle it all?

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Yes, exactly that.

The EW libraries I use need the OPUS VST3 plugin, which you can install from the EW Installation Centre and then add as a VST in play mode in Dorico.

You can select the patches you want from inside OPUS.

Some libraries, I’m guessing here, may still need the older Play VST.

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All of which i find as confusing as the names of the characters in a russian novel

It’s happy news though that it will actually work and i suspect i will need to learn to decipher it all if i want to get to the happiest conclusion

if i dont lose my marbles in the process

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You can’t currently use word-building with NPPE.

Choir playback is an aspect of our software that we want to improve. This is very complicated, and ideally, we want something that notation programs could use to automatically produce the desired lyrics, at some point.

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this would be top of my wishlist with NPPE and would be an amazing achievement if it’s possible to improve on Symphonic or Hollywood Choirs programmed manually.

Second would be support for Chris Hein libraries (esp. solo strings) as programming them is quite challenging! I suspect, though, with the announcement of the new VSL solo violin and cello, you’ll be giving that higher priority.

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Yes, unfortunately, using sample libraries does still involve some technical stuff.

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Given that lots of AI programs will also be processing words, I think there’s a good argument for the industry coming up with a standard protocol for doing this.