Is it possible to change the order of the fader modules in the mixer?
Jesper
I’ve taken the deep dive into Dorico since finally switching over to Finale about a week ago (actually bought it during the special Finale-owners special offer a year+ ago). I’m starting to find everything intuitive enough, and especially like the how NotePerformer sounds in my band projects. So overall quite impressed and satisfied! But the order of instruments in the mixer IS an aggravation – it should follow score order and reflect any changes along the way. Right now, there still is no way to adjust that order. Hoping a Dorico moderator will notice this and may pass on to the development team.
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Reapplying a playback template is not a solution to this issue. There are many things that get reset when applying a playback template. It’s definitely not a good solution.
Nearly every project I start with a template but I always make customizations, either adding instruments or adjusting parameters for the instruments. To think that one playback template can work for an entire project is not reasonable, in fact it’s quite short-sighted. I can’t imagine working on a project and not tweaking parameters for VST instruments. Never mind inserts and all sorts of other modifications that a playback template will completely destroy. This has been a long-standing issue but there has been no resolution.
To not be able to have the channel order reflect the order of instruments in the setup mode is unjustifiable.
You can also see similar behavior when exporting for separate instruments, the most recent instruments added always appear at the end of the list instead of where they are in the setup mode. This is one of many very simple issues that can be fixed in literally a few hours.
I truly love this app, it’s so much better than sibelius, but some of these issues/fixes really need to be addressed.
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That is a very bold assertion (and disrespectful of the development team). Please retract.
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Not necessary.
Lists are an elemental component of software design. Painting a GUI interface is equally as trivial. Maintaining an ordered list of instruments and their corresponding VST plugins is also quite straightforward and easily implemented. Same as the fact that one cannot delete a VST instrument from the list of VST instances except for the very bottom instance was my first notable indication that there are some fundamental errors in the overall design of the playback engine and its associated interfaces.
I speak from decades of experience not only as a software architect but also as someone who has worked in teams of software developers creating and maintaining projects far more intricate and sophisticated as Dorico.
I mean no disrespect, simply stating facts and asking for features to be implemented as any paying customer has every right to do.
There are actually far more important to improvements and fixes that I could delineate but that is not what this post is about. The mixer should be fixed, simple. And the channel strips should be able to be grouped, Ableton does it quite easily. And it should also be easy for the user to adjust the size of the channel strips, right now they look quite clunky.
I’ve noted in other posts other features/fixes that would be desirable, if not required, all of them being relatively easy. The complete rewrite of the VST engine no doubt is a big task, but it’s clear that it also has considerable need for improvement.
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Whoops, there go a couple of programmer fairies!
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Suggestions and requests for improvements are welcome, and the development team read them all.
The offense is to suggest that any change is “relatively easy” without you knowing anything about Dorico’s internal design.
Despite your protestation to the contrary, it is deeply disrespectful of the skills of the team that created Dorico, You are not “simply stating facts”. You are just offering your opinion (which is fine).
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If it wasn’t easy in this particular case that would clearly point out to me that the software was badly written. Simple tasks are easily executed by simple instructions. I’ve seen enough horribly written software in my time to recognize symptoms quite easily.
Anyway, to summarize, yes this is a feature request. Please implement ASAP.
Are you really that tone deaf?
I’m out.
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Excellent.
No need for insults.
Being such a sophisticated programmer with an almost miraculous intuitive understanding of Ableton’s and Dorico’s internal structure, perhaps you should just replace Dorico’s mixer with Ableton’s and solve you problem at home.
Surely, since the option is so simple, you could do it yourself.
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Sarcasm really isn’t necessary, nor appreciated.
If I had access to the source code for Dorico I might have a quick look at it. And considering that Ableton is easily extended using Max/MSP it’s very possible that I wouldn’t even have a need for the source code for Ableton Live. One of the many wonderful things about Ableton is its ability to extend in ways that no other DAW can merely because of the integration of Max/MSP (https://cycling74.com/)
If you would like to arrange for me to have access to the source code from Steinberg, I am more than happy to sign an NDA and take a quick analysis of the code structure and report back. Of course if I created the implementation I would have to charge a standard rate, which starts at $250/hour.
Otherwise, please keep the personal insults to yourself. There’s nothing wrong with users pointing out problems and recommending solutions for a product that they purchased.
Happy holidays!
If everything is so quick, I am not sure it would be profitable…
An extra couple of grand would be lovely, there’s always bills to be paid, kids to take care of. Health insurance, car insurance, energy, rent, food costs, you know the drill.
