Dorico software Deletes 1 beat in Measure 10

I used a template I made a few months ago to create a new project. I set the time signature to 6/4 in the form to create the new project. But when the project opened up, there was no time signature showing at all. Worse, After adding 6/4 to the first bar, then double-clicking it to allow me to add a pickup note, the app somehow decided there would only be 5 beats in measure 10. I selected that measure and used the time signature tool from the left side panel and set the bar’s time sig to 6/4. That showed up at the beginning of the the measure 10, but there were still only 5 beats in that measure! I deleted the measure, so now my piece had 45 measures instead of 46. But the new Measure 10 has only 5 beats! So, in reality, the last measure (46) was deleted. I don’t understand any of this behavior.

It’s unclear exactly what you are starting from, but my guess is that you have a manual barline at the end of bar 10 (or perhaps a double bar?).
Try deleting it.

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I tried to find the process to include my project so you could see it. Coach me on that and I will post it.

You can drag a project file right into the edit window you’re using to write a message here in the forum, or you can click the upload button in the edit window toolbar.

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If the file is bigger than 4MB, then you can do Play > Playback Template and apply the Silence template, then save as a copy; this will reduce the file size.

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OKAY, here is the project.

H 342 Just As I Am T.B.dorico (1.5 MB)

I deleted all barlines that had a red signpost and everything is now ok :wink:

Pressing the alt key shows you the rhythmic grid in every bar and you can see that all bars have 6 quarters.

H 342 Just As I Am T.B.dorico (1,5 Mo)

Cool. Thx for the quick reply! While waiting for a response, i quickly re-created this project. (see attached). I have a similar strange behavior . The software has decided that Measure 11 has 9 beats! And above Measure 11 is a red signpost which says [6/4(q, 3+3)]. So the source for the signpost is correct, but whatever is the source for how many beats will actually exist in Measure 11 is wrong. What on earth could cause such behavior?

H342 Just As I Am T-B.dorico (1.5 MB)

If you doubleclick the red signpost in measure #11, you see this:

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Measure in 6/4, with 9 quarters pickup.

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The signpost represents an “inline-pickup bar” a 6/4 time signature with 9 crotchets/quarter notes.

  1. Double click the signpost and delete the ,9
  2. Delete the needless time signtaure in bar 11
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Interesting. But my question remains… I set the time signature on the first bar in an empty project to 6/4 time. And the software added several red signposts - and in the case of Measure 11, it put “6/4,9”. I did not add that, so what caused this behavior? Additionally, when I followed the suggestion of deleting all bars with red signposts, I attempted to delete all bars with red signposts in the original project. But there is one bar (M18) which will not delete! I am using Version 6.2.0.6088 (Mar 6 2026), on my MacBook Pro.

I’m interested if that empty project really was an empty project. No existing time signatures? No notes?

And how did you set the time signature?

You didn’t have to delete the bars, it was enough to delete the signposts

These signposts indicate explicit hidden time signature changes – even if there is no literal change. The 5 beats in bar 10 is probably an accident. You can get rid of the signposts and correcting the bar contents first by selecting the left barline of bar 11 and deleting it, then do the same with bar 10. In this case (and order) deleting the barlines removes only the time signatures.

Your first post said that you created the template, so it is likely these problems exist within it.

It sounds like you are saying that there are bars that have different time signatures, but I cannot see the time signatures?

I clicked the first, empty, bar. Then I opened the Right Side Panel Time Signature tool. Then I selected 6/4 time, and it set the default at the top of the menu to 6/4. I double clicked that and 6/4 was entered into the first measure.

If the Template had some hidden invisible time signatures, then those should be consistent each time I create a new project. But the first time, it created or showed 3 different measures with red signposts AFTER I set the original time signature in M1. And in the second instance of re-creating this project, the software added 1 measure with red signpost indication 6/4 time with 9 pick p beats. Since those 2 projects, from the same template had completely different issues, how could this be the fault of the template? If the template had 3 Hidden time signatures, how did it create a different scenario the second time I opened it(6/4,9)?

Could you attach the template?

I will have to do it later. I am desperately trying to get some sheet music prepared for a choir by end of day. Thanks for the help.

If you built your file or your template on an existing file, those hidden time signatures presumably carried over from the prior document. This is standard. Even after selecting all (CTRL+A) and deleting, some earlier aspects of the file may return when you build a new file that incorporates those measures.

I do not know whether deleting everything using the System Track would be more effective.

I remember having had a problematic template like that (with invisible elements that I couldn’t get rid of), and @benwiggy recommended Edit > Delete Bars — and that was the solution!

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