I experience an annoying lyrics font issue after updating to 6.1. I’ve got an apostrophe in Calibri font that is displayed vertical on all Dorico versions so far:
After the update all these apostrophes are now displaying this way:
I had to downgrade so the apostrophes are displayed correctly. Can someone have a look at this?
Thanks
I’m not at my computer to check, but does playing around with these new settings mentioned in the Version History change anything?
I’d say apostrophes and quotes are not the same glyphs, so it should not have any relationship, but… who knows?
Would you be able to attach a short snippet of one of your projects that shows the problem? Did you input the lyrics using the popover, or with something like the Edit Line of Lyrics or Edit Single Lyric dialog?
Nope, this does not make any difference - ticked or unticked.
Edit:
Although this character is a single straight quote. In Word when I type in that character it is transformed into a smart quote unless I untick this option in Auto-format panel:
So it clearly has has something to do with the latest Dorico changes mentioned above. In previous versions I was able to paste that straight quote into the lyrics window and it did not transform it to a smart quote, but not anymore..
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In the previous versions Dorico would transform the straight quote to a smart one when you type in the popover. But then when you open Edit Single Lyric dialog and paste the straight quote it did not transform it and this worked perfectly for me so far. But not in 6.1 anymore.
Here is the straight quote to paste in Edit Single Lyric: ’
Did this get solved? I use a paragraph style to mark the parts in my work, so the second version of the A part is A’. I used to get the straight apostrophe, which is what I want. Now I get the smart quote. I do much simpler stuff than most you do, so I’d love a simple solution.
Sorry. I unticked the engraving option about smarten quotes and in spite of text saying that Dorico would smarten quotes in text frames regardless of the option setting, that fixed it. I guess my text marking the parts is not in a text frame, just text.
I’m finding that the setting of smarten quotes in a parent style overrides the setting in a paragraph style in the child. Is that the correct behavior? I’m running Dorico 6.2.20.6183.
The picture you show here is from Paragraph styles (a global options window). The properties panel is where you can override options that have been chosen in the global options windows (engraving options, paragraph styles, etc) and having something toggled on in the properties panel shows that this something has been overridden there. So if you don’t see anything toggled on in the properties panel, it simply means that what has been selected behaves following the global rules that have been defined elsewhere (here, Paragraph styles), but you don’t see there what those settings are, you need to open paragraph styles to know, or override the rules and make it explicit in the properties panel.
This would certainly be unexpected behavior… One that would redefine the workflow when working with parents and children in this Paragraph styles window.
Only if the setting in the child is UNSET. Then it should follow the parent. Are you finding that the Parent overrides a style in the child that has itself been switched on?
he crux for me is that the child has two ways that seem to turn smarten on. The dot and the check box. You can have both the dot and the checkbox on or the dot on and the checkbox off. I think I missed this before. The six options below describe what I see. I can believe this is all correct. I was flummoxed by the dot and checkbox in the child style window.
The default style has only the option to turn Smarten quotes on or off. There is just a check box that is checked or not.
The child style (part marker) has both a check box and a dot. You can uncheck the box with the dot on…
DEFAULT ON ----------
Default: smarten on
PM: smarten on with dot and check
Both the same: single quote is straight; 2 quotes smart; 3 quotes smart around a single quote; 4 quotes smart around 2 straight
I’m assuming this is correct.
Default: smarten on
PM: smarten dot on, checkbox off
Default appears the same as above;
PM now uses all straight
This is what I wanted but couldn’t figure out how to get before. It overrides the parent.
3 .
Default: smarten on
PM: smarten off completely, no dot and no checkmark
This puts a star by the Part marker name in the paragraph styles list
Default same as above
PM uses smarten – same as default
DEFAULT OFF
Default smarten off:
Part Marker: smarten on with dot and check
Default straight
Part Marker uses smart – overrides parent
2
Default smarten off:
PM: smarten dot on, checkbox off (* by name)
straight everywhere
3
Default: smarten off
PM: smarten off completely, no dot and no checkmark
Straight everywhere
This is a common paradigm across Dorico for overrides for on/off properties.
The toggle indicates whether an override is active. The checkbox indicates the value of the override.
Here’s how this relates to child paragraph styles and “smarten quotes”.
Thanks for confirming. Took me a while to sort it out 
but it makes sense!
I still have an issue here… I changed my part marker paragraph style in one file so that I get the smart quotes the way I want (default still has them on; my style uses straight quotes).
I saved it as the default per Lillie’s suggestion in a different thread.
I opened another file that uses the part marker style, and it had smart quotes.
I closed everything and quit Dorico and tried again. I still see smart quotes in any file that uses the part marker style except the file where I changed it.
What am I missing?
When you save something as default, that default is only applied to new projects.
You can use the Library Manager to import style definitions from your saved defaults, or from another project.
