Gotcha 
duly noted
Sorry, can you clarify what this means? Is this fixed?
I just imported xml from cubase of a piece for two guitars and two double basses. They are both playing an octave too high when I play the notation. I have the score set to "transposing layout, but there’s no change. I’m just using the stock halion playback engine.
EDIT: ah, the issue is with Halion. I switched to my kontakt and omnisphere instruments and the transposition is correct.
The Dorico Team has made it clear on several occasions that instruments that traditionally transpose at the octave are not affected by the concert/transposed setting. As in many other notation programs, these instruments always sound at their transposed octave.
The issue was with the default playback in the included Halon instruments. Switching to Kontakt played the correct pitches.
When I step-input (not via MIDI keyboard) notes into my “Upright Bass” part, it’s sounding an octave too low.
Can anyone tell me what I’m doing wrong?
The double bass is a transposing instrument sounding an octave lower than written, and Dorico (like Finale) reflects this in both concert-pitch and transposed scores, presumably as a matter of convenience to avoid excessive ledger lines.
That’s all good and fine @Derrek but how do I step-input when the note is too low to hear? When I play back it’s fine (in the correct octave). Do I need to change the clef just for input and back for playback?
Which playback device are you using? If the sound you’re using is pitched an octave lower than the written pitch, then you should use an expression map that transposes up by 1 octave, since Dorico is already accounting for the octave transposition of the instrument itself.
I don’t understand your problem.
Try with this file, which uses Dorico defaults.
vc-cb.dorico (695.6 KB)
Enter notes on the Bass and they sound an octave lower than the cello (as they should)
- When I tap on the already existing F1 (Contrabass staff), it sounds as expected, as F1.
- However, when I ENTER a note on the SAME F1 line of the Bass staff, as I enter the note, it is SOUNDING an octave lower (aka as “F0”).
So, there are two “sounding pitches”: A) the F0 pitch upon entering a note, and B) the F1 sound, when it is merely selected.
Uniquely & strangely, I notice that alternatively selecting “Concert Pitch” and “Transposed Pitch” bottom left of the screen makes zero difference; I still get above problem.
Here’s what I need:
When I enter a note (AND select the note), it should sound the SAME; I want to know what it’s gonna sound like when it’s played back. After all, isn’t that the point of having a notation software program? If I wanted to work exclusively with transposing pitch scores, then that’s an option I could select, right?
How do I do this? How do I select this “expression map” just for the Contrabass?
I expect you are entering the CB notes either with the mouse or with the computer keyboard, so you are entering the notes in the wrong written octave.
Were you to enter the notes using a MIDI keyboard, you would find that entering the notated pitch gives a sound an octave below, as one would expect for a ContraBass.
EDIT: I got his wrong. One has to enter the sounding pitch on a MIDI keyboard to produce the correct notated pitch. 
I’ve honestly always been confused about this too. It’s not possible to enter the written pitch of octave transposing instruments by playing that written pitch on a MIDI keyboard is it? For example if a want to input a written G3 in the Bass, I have to play a G2 (the sounding pitch) on my MIDI keyboard. By contrast if I want a written C5 in a Tenor Sax part, I can simply play a C5 on my MIDI keyboard when I’m viewing the transposed score.
Why can I input written pitches if I’m inputting into an instrument that is written a 9th above concert, but not one an 8th above? If I want a written G3 in the bass, I’d much rather play the written pitch just like I do for every other instrument that transposes at an interval other than an octave when viewing a transposed score. (Or is there some setting for this that I’ve been missing for years?)
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This is the crux of it. It’s because the “Input Sounding Pitch” switch doesn’t respect the octave of C-instruments any more than the “Transposing Score” switch. I tend to agree with the latter behavior, but the former is a little frustrating.
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Fred,
You are correct: I misspoke. In either concert or transposing mode, one has to play the true pitch on a MIDI keyboard to notate the CB correctly. I realize that sometimes my DX7 doesn’t reach that low and I have to play the notes an octave too high and transpose them later.
I agree that having the option to type octave-transposing instruments at written pitch would be a great convenience.
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When inputting from a transposed manuscript into a transposed score, allowing most transpositions to be entered at the correct written pitch, and then requiring the user to remember to input a few octave transposing instruments at the sounding pitch, really is a recipe for introducing errors into the score. I would love to have an option to input all octave transposing instruments at written pitch. Honestly, I would use that option whether inputting concert or transposed.
As I input using an 88-key controller, it doesn’t have easily accessible up/down octave transposition buttons. It seems sort of ridiculous that I can’t correctly input the top notes of this Yamaha Glock, even though they are only 2-3 ledger lines out of the staff. However, inputting a written low Bb in a Subcontrabass Saxophone is no problem, even though its concert pitch is a 1/2 step off the low end of a Piano, simply because it transposes at an interval other than an octave (or multiples of octaves). That just doesn’t feel very consistent to me.
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