How do I type a double whole note with a breve, like the green part?
This is an English language forum. Perhaps if you could post again you woud get vastly more assistance.
What exactly are you looking for?
A double whole note and a breve are the exact same thing, âbreveâ being the British term, âdouble whole noteâ the American equivalent.
Your example shows a chord with longa / quadruple whole notes.
If you put your notes into different voices, you can change the property of the voice column/their placement independently.
In Bass, I canât get the look I want.
First note voice column index 0
Second chord voice column 1
[edit] additionally you might need to use the horizontal spacing tool in Engrave Mode.
I donât specifically like how this is rendered, but yes. I did actually prefer the original grouping, as it is easier to read.
Is this the correct shape before the edit?
The shape should be the same as the one I posted initially.
The shape / note value in your first example shows a longa.
There are a few problems here: first of all, the longa notehead in Dorico (well, at least in Bravura) is narrower and lighter than the breve. Historically, they were the same rectangular shape, just with a stem on the longa, like semibreves/wholes and minims/halves shared the same diamond-shaped notehead.
The second problem is that these rectangular noteheads, in Dorico, donât push each other to the other side of the stem if theyâre a third apart in a chord. Ordinary round noteheads only need to do so if they approach each other more closely, when the interval is a second or a prime, but in breve and longer-value chords they âshouldâ do that already when theyâre a third apart, otherwise the chord becomes virtually illegible, being an unsightly ladder of thick lines. Feature request!
Even worse with a stack of breves, where a triad is hard to tell apart from an open fifth:
Unfortunately, thereâs no way (that I know of), to simply push one of the stacked noteheads to the other side of the stem. Voice column index only applies to different voices relative to each other, not notes in a chord.
Best approximation is using a second voice with hidden stem, and nudging this notehead in Engrave mode:
Additional observation: the stem thickness doesnât match the vertical strokes of the longa notehead, although it seems to depend on the intervals in the chordâŚ
Thank you Pjotr for diving a bit deeper into this. I also think, that there is room for improvement of the design of those noteheads. The round version of the breve notes in Bravura make them easier to distinguish.
Having said that, these last chords are quite often used in a decorative way, not necessarily to show the note value. Sometimes they are even placed additionally to the real last chord.
