Hey guys, I’ve been using Dorico since 2020 and love it. With the recent Finale news, I have been tasked by a publisher to help create a new template based on the look of their current Finale template.
One of the things that they do is write orchestrations for church groups. As the makeup of the performing group is always different, they will create additional instrument parts that aren’t in the score that simply mirror another part.
For example, they’ll write for 2 trumpets and alto sax. But they’ll have a Trumpet 3 part that is just grabbing the data from the alto sax part and presenting it as Trumpet 3.
Is it possible to do this kind of ‘cloning’ in Dorico? Any advice will be warmly accepted! If you need more clarification just let me know - I may not have done the best job of explaining the situation.
Not sure what you mean by “Clone”. (Do you mean then changing a note on the Alto will then automatically change it in Trumpet 3, so one is tracking the other’s contents?)
If not, then create a Trumpet 3 player (Setup) and copy/paste the Alto contents to T3.
Is this what you are meaning or could you please clarify further?
(After that, check for notes/phrases out of range, but you will know this).
A normal user here, no expert.
No need to copy to a new player.
What I do is to add a layout (Setup, right panel). Right click on the new layout. Select the player. Change name and transposition as per taste.
(The transposition part is only in the Pro version).
I think that an automatic way just simplifies the process, particularly as it’s a large publisher with a number of arrangers and editors. If someone is making edits to an arrangement, it is just more straight forward to make those changes to the core arrangement and have the supplemental parts follow suit.
I guess, too, it’s “the way they do it in Finale at the moment”. I know there’s a lot of that going on at the moment, and I realise they are different programs, but just trying to do what I can to bring their workflow across into Dorico.
I actually totally understand what you mean, having come from DAWs prior to Dorico. I’ve used it frequently in Logic and Cubase for doubling tasks: for example you have a midi region for a bass instrument on one track, and on a second track you have a sub bass merely doubling everything an octave lower. Rather than create or copy/paste the midi regions every time you make a change, you can simply edit the “main” region and the any linked/alias regions will instanenously update to reflect the same change.
It would be a neat feature to have something like “alias” or “linked staves” in Dorico! But in the meantime fortunately copy/pasting is pretty fast.
I do this all the time for different groups, including church groups. Follow what ghellquist said in his reply. Easiest and most automatic way to do it.
No need to do that! @ghellquist and @JAMES_GILBERT gave the right answer. Simply duplicate the part layout (or create a new one and link it to the same player), then adjust clef and/or transposition. It’s magic.
If you don’t need “real cues” in the same project, then one absolutely could change the scale size of cues to be normal, hide bar rests alongside cues, and hide/edit the cue labels for this purpose.
Some things you probably can customise per-cue, but I can’t remember off the top of my head. For the purposes of recreating an entire other instrument’s part, it might be annoying otherwise (although that could be done with one single cue item, so perhaps not even).
