Drum kit - playback of accented note tied to a roll

[rraby]

I’d appreciate some help achieving correct playback for a roll tied to a following accented note. In the example below, the accented tied note doesn’t play back, presumably because Dorico treats the tied notes as a single entity. How can I retain the tie while still triggering playback of the accented note? I suspect the solution may involve faking the tie, but I haven’t found a way to position a slur convincingly. Since this type of notation can occur frequently, I’m hoping for a simple and reliable workaround.

[Christian_R]

Hi @rraby, it was discussed in the past.

Here a possible workaround suggestion (for the playback, in a similar case):

FR: Percussion Tie

This is very much a workaround to achieve the appearance you want, and it will affect playback unless you suppress the extra notes which I describe. In another “instrument/voice” in the drum set (in the file I have attached, I chose Tom. 1), enter the notes which are being tied to (on the first beat of each bar). Select them, add the accents and flip their stem direction. In Properties, Suppress playback. In Setup mode, click on the three dots at the end of Drum Set and choose Edit Percussion …

Edit:
Basically you can insert a duplicate instrument in the same position in you kit (in my example a snare 2), then add the note that correspond to the accented note to it, apply the accent on it (selecting it in play mode), hide its stem, set the voice column index to 0 for all the notes (to make the notes overlap), remove the rests, and you have your accented note (I exaggerated the accent velocity in my example):

Result playback:

Dorico file example:

accent at roll end chain with extra instrument.dorico (1.3 MB)

[Janus]

Am I misremembering, or was this situation specifically addressed in a recent update?
(Sorry, don’t have time to check the version history…)

[MarcLarcher]

The recent update allowed to have fixed velocity on all notes in a roll, IIRC. I don’t think it covered the problem of last note being played separately?

[rraby]

Thank you, Christian, for this elegant workaround. I’m sure the development team will want to devise a native solution to this issue in due course, especially since this notation is so common in drum kit and percussion writing.

[rraby]

After some experimentation, I’ve found that simply hiding the duplicate note head is sufficient, with no need to use the voice column index. By adjusting the velocity as needed, there’s also no requirement to add an accent. No extra rests appeared in the process. Before I apply this across multiple instances in the score I am working on, I’m just checking whether anyone can spot any potential pitfalls.

Christian’s workaround is impressively elegant, and for anyone hesitating to try it, rest assured, it’s quite straightforward. Thank you once again Christian.