Drum notation question

[letku]

If my settings are like this:

I get this result, in which the second bar is ok but the first one is not:

And if my settings are these:

I get this, in which the first bar is ok but the second is not:

Is there a way to have the first bar as one voice and the second bar as two different voices?

[Christian_R]

@letku

the second bar as two different voices

Hi @letku, you can select a note, right click>Percussion>Change voice, and choose what you need. (Or as @TonH suggests here below, you can try to change the voices in your kit as desired)

@letku
EDIT: with factory settings, I have this (you can easily flip the first bar):

drumset.dorico (1.3 MB)

[TonH]

How are the voices defined in the kit editor?

[letku]

12 minutes! What took you so long?

Thanks. One more question: how do I get the bass drum accent below the bass drum?

[Christian_R]

@letku

how do I get the bass drum accent below the bass drum?

You can change it case by case in the properties:

Or check in Engraving Options>Articulations>Placement, the desired global default positions. But in this example it should be as in my last screenshot by default.

[letku]

Hmmm…for some reason the properties switch next to the placement option doesn’t work. It flickers but refuses to be activated. Strange.

[Christian_R]

Can you upload the Dorico file (also as cut-down version of just this couple of bars)?

[letku]

Drum voicing example.dorico (715.9 KB)

[letku]

I guess it’s the default. At least I haven’t done any defining.

[TonH]

If you place the Crash in the Percussion Kit Editor in Voice 2, and use your first engraving options, you get this.

Not sure where those extra rests in voice 3 and 6 come from, but those can be removed by selecting them and Edit → Remove Rests

[letku]

How do I place the crash in voice 2?

EDIT: Found it!

[letku]

I’m still not getting the cymbal accents above and bass drum accents below. Do I define this in the kit editor? The Natural Placement option in the Engraving Options places both accents below, which isn’t very natural

[TonH]

strange, all I did was open your file, placed the crash in voice 2, set the engraving options as in you first image in first post and the accents are as shown.

Removed rests afterwards

Drum voicing example.dorico (661.6 KB)

[letku]

Could it have something to do with the stem direction?

[letku]

If I flip the stem direction, both notes change simultaneously and in the same direction even though they are different voices and have different stem directions.

[jesele]

I would add a second kick-drum, up-stem.

Jesper

The first bar uses kick-drum 1, and the second bar uses kick-drum 2.

drms.dorico (519.3 KB)

[letku]

I created a new project, but this time not from a template, and now I get this without any tweaking:

Even the accents are placed perfectly. The first example was from the Scoring Express Theatre & Studio template, the second was not. There must be some hidden preferences that override my attempts.

[jesele]

Ah, sorry, I misunderstood what you wanted.

Jesper

[letku]

Are you aware of any settings that might explain this odd behavior?

[jesele]

Could be that the snare drum is set to upstem voice in the kit editor.

Jesper