Impossible!
Beware â people might misread that statement (which I assume is meant as a joke) and assume that youâre being an *******.
In Key Commands, the command is called Hide Invisibles. But that command has nothing to do with visualizing page template changes on a layout.
Me, an a******? Never!
I thought it was called hide non-printing elements but maybe I mixed it up with something else.
The feature is called âHiding non-printing elementsâ in the manual, but the actual command in Key Commands is called âHide Invisiblesâ.
No wonder I couldnât find it!!! Thanks.
It would definitely make sense to have an âapply to page templateâ box in the properties bar, if you make a change directly from the layout.
Really, I doubt anyoneâs artistic career has been ended thereby. The folks usually called out for creating overrides are those that do so and then get into trouble and need help.
But that is all part of learning Dorico and should be met with helpfulness and not criticismâŚjust sayinââŚhaving been on that side of the see-saw a time or two.
Telling someone they should use Page Templates is not necessarily criticizing. You may just be putting a negative spin on what is often simple helpful advice.
I did not state anything about this thread, just a generalization. Anytime advice is prefaced with something to the effect of âyou just need to learn how to use Doricoâ or âyou need to watch the videosâ or whatever, it is demeaning. The whole purpose of the question in the thread is to learn. Understanding that there are different learning styles is a feature of emotional intelligence and the ability to be helpful. And, I am not saying that you do that or calling you out at all, but it does happen frequently when experienced users chime in to be âhelpful.â
OT: a spring cleaning of the Key Commands section in Preferences in order to make the names of all key commands actually match the name of the corresponding feature used in the manual and/or elsewhere in Dorico, and to categorize the key commands the same way as the actual features, would be a very nice development IMHO. /OT
Thank you for highlighting the side of the person asking for help. It is good to be reminded.
Though there is also the aspect that since a while quite a few new users introduce themselves whining, complaining, insulting and rather demanding than asking for help.
This goes up to a point where I even questioned myself, whether they were real users asking for help - or AI-generated contributions to put a negative spin into our forum. I cannot really imagine real people anything than being polite and humble, when in need of help.
Yes, you certainly have a point and it is valid from both of our perspectives. I might add, though, that many new users do their best to find the answers themselves before coming to the forum. A the point they join up with the Form, they are beyond frustrated (as much with themselves as with the software) and need to vent. Being someone who usually is humble, I failed miserably at being humble with my first couple of posts asking for help.
We need to recognize that and be the bigger person to help them move forward in a productive way. So while their frustration naturally triggers our own from the opposite end of the spectrum many times, it is only right to be the better person because that will gain loyal users much more quickly than our negative responses to them.
I will never forget a musicology professor who took my frustration with embracing 20th century atonal music and turned that around simply by being empathetic and understanding when I was vehemently stating to him how ridiculous and superfluous that Arnold Schoenberg and Paul Hindemith were as composers. He could have just failed me on that section but he took the high road because he, too, was once frustrated with the same modernism approach to composition. BTW, I now have an appreciation for both of those composers.
There are also a couple of forum members here that calmed my frazzled self by being helpful when I was a new Dorico user cussinâ and fussinâ about how unintuitive and difficult everything was: @judddanby and @benwiggy if I recall correctly. They got it when others were chastising me for being frustrated rather than just asking âhow can I help?â And there were others who took that high road as well but I am not recalling their names at the moment. It was those âhigh roadâ responses that helped the most and what most likely caused me to stay the course and learn Dorico.
OT, but Iâm curious: Hindemith wrote atonal music? (I briefly checked the wikipedia article on him but it had no examples of that. The only instance of the word âatonalâ there was in a Goebbels quote denouncing his music and I doubt the minister of propaganda knew much music theory.)
Well, that was the thought process at the time. I actually loved learning Hindemithâs organ works after I got over myself with the concept of atonality and modernism. Today, Hindemith is considered far from being atonal and rightfully so.
It depends on how frustrated you are before eventually going to the forum in order to seek help 
There are people who immediately ask others when a question pops up, and there are people who try endlessly by themselves before asking. Thatâs just how people are. 
Just to get back on topic⌠I just verified that you can open your file in another tab, move the tab to, say, a second monitor (or anywhere else you like, and enter Engrave Mode in both windows, make your template changes in one using the template editor, and when you apply the changes, it updates the other window without leaving the template editor in the first window. Now, Iâve only tested this in Windows, mind you.
I think you mean a new Window rather than a new Tab, right? (Cmd/Ctrl+Shift+T) I donât think tabs can be moved anywhere.