Entering song titles so they print correctly

I’m transcribing a lead sheet. I entered the song title in the curly brackets at the top. It creates the file name correctly. When I print the file from Write mode or from Print mode, the lead sheet has curly brackets around the title on the first page and the second page is titled ‘Untitled Project 1’.
What should I do to get correct song titles, with no curlies, on both pages and on the file name?

The “curly bracket” text is called a “token”. Whatever text you put in the Project Info dialog (for Project Title, Composer, Lyricist, Copyright, etc…) will appear on the page where the appropriate token is.

In short: don’t modify the page itself. Don’t replace the token. Just put the title in the Project Info.

You may need to “Remove page overrides” in Engrave mode to restore the token in the text frame. Right-click on the page icon in the right-hand panel, and select “remove page override”.

If you’re coming from Finale, tokens are just like “Inserts”, where you put the text in the File Info window.

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Thank you. It worked well enough for my current purpose. The second page got a title and the composer’s name appeared on the right. The arranger’s name did not appear and the Other Information, namely Violin part, did not appear. Maybe it’s because I messed up the original ‘token’.

I’ll try your process on the next transcription. Thank you, again.

Those tokens aren’t on the page template by default: you’ll have to add them yourself. There will be a Layout Name token on the left-hand top of the first page on an Instrumental Part – and that should normally say something like “Violin 1”.

Here’s a useful video. It’s a big old, so a few things have changed – “Master” pages are now “Page templates”. But it’s good at explaining the concepts.

I started another transcription using Project Info in a Lead Sheet. Song title and composer appear properly. Other Information, in this case 'Violin (2d trombone transcribed) does not appear. This happened in my prior transcription Lead Sheet, also. There is no Layout Name token anywhere that I can see on either page 1 or 2. When I open the Print page, I don’t see the Violin label.

Can you share a file? There are a few locations where things can go wrong.

As said, not every token is included in the template that Dorico comes with. If you want more, you can add them by right-clicking inside a text frame in the template editor.

As said, you should see that by default on a PART layout; but you won’t see it on a SCORE layout.

I’m using the Lead Sheet selection which is one of the options in Create New. Though making progress and learning, I have a feeling that some Dorico features are not present in a Lead Sheet. Several times I have clicked on a selection in the File dropdown and the Write dropdown and nothing happens. One example is: I enter text in File>Project Info>Other Info and it never appears on any of my projects.

Another example is: Shift-Alt-X just put Xs above a measure. It does not open an input box to add text above a measure.

Features can’t be excluded from a particular document.

Can you supply an example document here?

That also seems very weird. A screenshot of these Xs would be very useful. You can see whether the key command is correctly assigned to the command in Write menu > Create System Text.

benwiggy, another example is: When I enter Arranger in Project Info, it never appears in any of my Lead Sheet projects. Composer does appear.

How do I supply a sample document?

Arranger is not part of the default first page template. You can use the lyricist field in Project Info.
Or add the arranger token to the page template.

Jesper

Here’s an example with both the lyricist and arranger token under the composer.

Arranger.dorico (480.8 KB)

Thanks for a workaround.
I’m interested in consistency and simplicity. Both Composer, Arranger and Other Info fields appear in Project Info for a Lead Sheet. When all three are entered, only the Composer appears on the sheet. IMO, if it has an entry line, it ought to appear on the sheet. Workarounds are time consuming and messy to remember when and how they apply. Sure, it’s my opinion, but I like to see consistency.

You do it once, then save the page template set, and never have to do it again.

Jesper

It’s not a workaround, it’s the way Dorico is set up to work. If you want the fields from the file info dialogue to show up in your file, you have to add the tokens to your page templates. Once you’ve added the tokens as you want them, you can save your own templates so they’re the same every time. I’m away from the computer right now, so can’t show you the exact steps but a quick search for tokens and page templates should give you what you need.

P

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