Hi @Robin_Lobel,
if you are headed out on vacances today, bonne route!
In my NR and mixing tasks, I typically have my waveform height zoom level zoomed in very high (or possibly more correctly, very low) to view low level sounds. I was working this way today and couldn’t find the Envelope Editor line. Eventually I found the Envelope Edit line might be positioned at the upper boundary of the Waveform Display and when zoomed way in to -33dB, the Envelope Editor is inaccessible (out of view in the Waveform Display. Have to zoom out to -3dB to access the editor, which equals extra steps in use.
If zoom out further and further, the Envelope Editor positions closer and closer to the azimuth. It would be much more useful to me if the Envelope Editor moved toward the azimuth when zooming in as well :-)…or if it had it’s own lane…that suits me fine as well.
wow, no responses to this…I’m back to SL work after about a 4 week hiatus and the envelope edit line being out of visible range is so incredibly time consuming…there has to be an easier way than the constant zoom in/out for setting levels
I don’t really use this function (yet), but I thought I’d give my support to both my dears in this forum.
First, yeah, I just checked it out and it makes no sense whatsoever that the envelope editor line scale follows the waveform scale.
The envelope line must be visible at any zoom level, because it is related to the level of the audio file, not the actual audio content of the file.
And yeah, even in very modest zoom levels it disappears already. I just opened a random foley clip here in a project I’m working on and way before I reach any useful zoom level it is far gone already -even though the waveform window is taking half my screen in nuendo.
If I used this in my workflow I’d be considering it as “broken”.
@Robin_Lobel I think Todd really has a point!
Now second is Todd, I’m sure Robin must have simply missed this one. He is the most responsive and agile developer I’ve seen ( and I’m sure you do recognize that), and I bet a fix to this will come in no time.
Cheers!
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No response is a response!
I HIGHLY doubt that.
That is true!
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@ctreitzell Sorry I just missed your post ! Sometime it comes with multiple other posts in a time I can’t look at all of them, and then it just goes into oblivion… So if you feel you posted about something important and I didn’t reply in the next 7 days, feel free to up your topic (as you did) to bring it back to my attention.
The positioning of the volume envelope was indeed part of an internal debate before the release of SpectraLayers. I felt it had to be locked to the waveform scale to be consistent (I try to keep everything consistent/WYSIWYG as much as possible in SL), but there were also other opinions about this particular feature.
Now that you bring it up again with this use case, and I see it’s a shared opinion, I’m certainly open to revisit that.
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@henrique_staino thanks for the support! You explain it better than I
yes, I recognize @Robin_Lobel as the most highly reactive dev of software that I use; Robin, really, thanks again for being so often involved with your user base here on the SB forums
@Joey_Kapish yes, I understand that no response is a response…and I know an update is imminent today, too…it was just my lack of cohesive thought for which I worded my bump as I did
again, if you arrive at a workflow for editing envelopes in SL11, it’s not awful…but it is certainly inefficient…I’m gonna guess that most users mix in their DAW- I was thinking that way too, but, frankly, levelling in SL before putting the audio back in the DAW is very satisfying…when working on long form IME
aaaaand many other things regarding the edit tools for envelopes which would be so much more efficient
1- edit points change their value far too easily;
-if add edit point: said edit point is written to whatever the mouse pointer position is. Really, it should write the initial edit point to whatever the previous edit point value is…and stay at that initial value until user changes the value. If user wants to change the EP in time domain with mouse, then value changes to mouse position! This is very not user friendly.
2- EP value displays in dB; but the user input value in the context menu is in percentage. I’m constantly opening points to confirm their actual value…therefore, my workaround is to always set the percentage in 10s and no finer (not ones or 0.0)
I’m sure I could go on
I do realize Envelopes were a new addition in SL11 and this functionality is in its infancy…(I think I did already post that in another thread)