Euph. cue Trb. bug

Hi!
Could you please fix this bug for Euphonium having cues from Trombone

Euph-part G-clef

Wrong clef and wrong octave

Thanks!

And btw: The other way around as well

Trombone-part

Not a bug, just not automatic. You have to set some options in the bottom panel for cue, i.e.:

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Not a bug, just a default setting. You can change it globally in Engraving Options > Cues.

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Ok. It wou

Ok, I’ll see if changing option in Engraving option makes life easier.
Thanks!

Edit: There is still issues with octave-placement that, ok not a bug, but.. well it’s not supposed to be like that.

Actually, it is supposed to be like that. It took me a while to get that, coming from the band world where all cues are supposed to be playable. In the rest of music, the majority of cues are just as a guidepost for players, and as such, are traditionally in the range of the source instrument. If you’re a tubist with a piccolo cue, you’re listening for that instrument in order to enter correctly after an extended rest. Showing the music in a tuba range and/or transposition can be confusing.

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This is Concert Band, and the cue is meant to be playable

I understand. I write almost entirely for wind ensemble. But that doesn’t negate the fact the software is working as intended, as most of the musical world prefers cues in their respective keys and clefs.

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I disagree with working as intended here, for both ways of cuing.

Working as intended means that it’s doing what the developers meant for it to do — that is, there’s no bug here. Whether or not it’s the functionality you want is a different question.

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The musical cue has two meanings: In terms of play in case of lack of instrument or in terms of orientation. Dorico’s functionality is primary related to the latter.

And with some global settings in Engraving Options and the Octave Shift property you can make it playable.

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As someone who was a band director, I agree with the idea that, in some cases like concert band arrangements, cues should be playable. I disagree that this is a “bug” which would mean that the software doesn’t work as the programmers intended. Whether or not it works as we would like it to work does not make it a bug. :wink: (I do not mean this to be critical!)

Perhaps we could all agree that the programming concerning cues could be expanded to allow for “concert band” (playable) cues as a feature request? (To the Doricoteam, I know that adding this much increased functionality is not a small thing to ask — but it would be helpful!) :grin:

— Jim

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I’m working on a band piece now with a lot of cross cueing, and I still have never set the defaults for playable cues. It takes almost no time at all to adjust as needed, so I’m having trouble seeing the problem. Dorico works properly here, and doesn’t really need to change. I bet I could, if I was in the mood, create a script to make the changes with a single keystroke, but I’m too lazy for that. :rofl:

Although it’s not the hardest thing to fix, when doing this many enough times over many enough years, I felt it was the time to ask for native good solution.

Yes, bug or unwanted behavior. You’re probably right