Exporting with muted tracks adds time

I have a 10 track project. These are separate songs. Basically “master tracks”.

If I solo one for export it takes 5 minutes. Looks like Cubase still processing those muted tracks just doesn’t include it in the final mixdown (which is a very inefficient programming)

If I actually disable other tracks it takes 1.

Shouldn’t be like that.

TBH, the description is very vague…

Soloing isn’t used for exports. It is just a monitoring feature.

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What’s vague about it?

  1. Create 10 channels. Load them up with heavy CPU plugins. Solo just one and export. Note the time to export.
  2. Instead of soloing the track, disable all other 9. Note the time to export. It will be significantly shorter.

Why can’t be soloing/muting used for exports? There are some scenarios. If I want to export a few versions of a song, I would mute respected tracks in those versions. In my case I was doing sort of “pre-masterring” where I had to move mixbuss chain from the songs separately because Cubase engine was completely botching processing on export and creating all kinds of mess.

So I solo one track, export it with the mixbuss chain, move on to the next. Solo to match levels etc.

What @st10ss said: Soloing/Muting is about monitoring a track - it serves a different purpose. What you describe is expected behaviour in a DAW.

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Soloing only.
Mute is part of a mix down. Solos should be avoided in this context.
The solo bus is not what hear when you play back a track. It is different. (OK, sometimes it is exactly the same, but that is not a guarantee)

Since the OPs misconceptions have been addressed, I don’t think it’s a detraction to ask…. AI aside, you’re saying enabling Solo on one or more tracks routes that to an “inferred dedicated” solo bus?

I can’t actually find anything to confirm this other than AI, which (interestingly enough) has multiple models confirm it exists, and then says it was wrong when asked for citations - both Gemini and ChatGPT confirmed “solo bus” existed, then denied it, and Grok started off saying “no, it doesn’t.“ I only bring this up so that we don’t bring AI junk into the mix :slight_smile: (pun intended).

Is the “solo bus” a conflation of the “Listen” functionality? To ask another way, are you saying that (by way of example) soloing 2 tracks, which would automatically mute other tracks, would somehow result in a different signal path than just muting all other tracks other than the 2 example tracks? If so, how and where does that manifest itself?

To be honest I don’t really care if it’s “intended” or not or what “purpose” it’s serving. I decide what purpose it’s serving. The purpose is “not being included in the mixdown”.

Am I able to suddenly activate the track in the middle of the export? I don’t think so. If a track is muted it means it’s muted AND not included in the processing. Cubase should be smart enough to figure that part out.

That’s just not how things work. A muted track can easily be toggled/automated in and out of mute state. It needs to stay in the path. A disabled track is, well, disabled and out of the big picture until you decide to re-enable it. Not the same, but somewhat similar to, bypassing versus disabling a plugin.

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Shouldn’t be unthinkable that Cubase could check if a track is muted and no mute automation exists before doing an offline export.
Sounds like a feature request though.

Mute automation is doing exactly this.

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