Expression maps with Orchestral Tools Sine Player

[user450]

I started playing around with Dorico expression maps and started with Spitfire BBCSO (following Anthony’s excellent tutorial here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jrsZYLresE). It worked as expected.

Now I’m trying the same with Orchestral Tools Sine Player, and it doesn’t seem to be working at all. No articulations are getting chosen during Dorico’s playback.

In this screenshot, you can see that my Violin I track is assigned to the SINE Player, and I’ve chosen my custom expression map that corresponds to Violin 1:

Here is what that expression map looks like. I’ve highlighted pizzicato since that’s one of the most obvious ones that will tell me if it’s working properly. You can see pizzicato is triggered by the A0 keyswitch:

And here’s the SINE interface showing that pizzicato should indeed by A0:

My first guess of course was the C3/C4/C5 switch. But according to Orchestral Tools’ documentation, they use C4, and that’s what the expression map is set to. I tried switching it to C3 just in case.

This expression map isn’t working and I have no idea why. Can anyone see anything I’m doing wrong?

If I manually click on an articulation (e.g. in that last screenshot you can see I clicked in Trills - another very obvious one), then when I hit play, I hear only trills. It never switches off of trills even when the score is marked with other switching articulations (like pizz.) So it’s like this entire expression map is broken.

Please help.

[benwiggy]

My Ex maps for Berlin Free Orchestra use C0 at C3.

You can also see whether the expression is being triggered in the Key Editor.

[dko22]

I don’t understand this. As @benwiggy says, you must set middle C to C3 in the Expression Map as that is the mapping the SINE player uses whatever you may have read. That way, it definitely works fine with all my OT maps. Are you quite sure you’ve changed it in Dorico?

[sunnych]

Just for your information, I use CC instead of keyswitches in order to reuse the same expression map among violins, violas and celli, and they work perfectly for me. In my experience, using keyswitches in Dorico could produce some tiny playback issues which I could not consistently reproduce and report.