Extending a playing technique over multiple notes

I’m having a bit of trouble finding information on this particular topic. most of my searches are coming up with “extended playing techniques” which isn’t the same thing.

Anyway, my particular issue is with marking “marcato” over a passage (instead of the articulation over each note.)

when I try to select multiple notes, it applies “marc.” to each note, rather than “marc.” once with a circle to drag to cover more material if I want.

is there a setting I missed somewhere?

If I only put “marc.” on one note, there is no circle for me to drag to extend the effect over multiple notes. It just inserts a single “marc.” indication.

The only way I’ve found to add this extending line was to “group” two articulations together, but then I have to play around with it to delete the 2nd instance of “marc.”

I haven’t found anything in the lower zone either to edit this.

a 2nd question, related indirectly:

how can I make a parenthesized marking appear on a subsequent page or system of an instrument?
for example, if I have “marc. sempre” on page 1, and this playing technique continues on page two, I’ve like to have “(marc. sempre)” appear on the 2nd page.

is there a setting I missed somewhere?

a few days ago, there was a similar thread with this problem. Not all the playing techniques work the way, they probably should.

The only way I’ve found to add this extending line was to “group” two articulations together, but then I have to play around with it to delete the 2nd instance of “marc.”

If you select the “marcato”-text, you can extend it with Shift + alt + arrow keys.

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I noticed the same thing with any custom articulation that is specified as “attribute” instead of “direction”. The former specification refers to each individual note and the latter to all notes until another articulation is written to override this.

According to Version History, this is specific to Dorico 5 although these specs carry over all the way from Cubase:

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I suppose the “correct” way to handle these marcatos is to create a “direction” technique that reads “sempre marcato” or something like that?

AHA! THAT was what I was missing.

Some playing techniques automatically create that handle that you can drag, but then others don’t have a handle.
This certainly fixes the issue for those cases without a handle.

I tried that, but trying to now apply that sempre marcato technique again repeats it on every note.

Just to make sure: you create two elements: a playing technique that says “sempre marcato” (which I think is the Italian version of marcato-text) and then a corresponding new playback technique that says “sempre marcato” and is marked as “direction”.

Make it a direction technique, not an attribute (as per the Version history)

Playing techniques show start/end handles when they have duration.

As mentioned on that topic, one way to give a playing technique duration after creating it is to lengthen it.

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ok, I finally figured it out… created my technique text and ALSO created a 2nd “marcato” technique in the “Edit” window.

Now, to my 2nd question:

Is there any way of having the technique text repeated on subsequent pages, in parentheses?
Without having to insert a continuation line? (I don’t want a line showing the whole length of this technique. the idea is to reduce clutter in the score)

Yes, use the Line continuation type, but set the Line style to “none”.

Make it a direction technique, not an attribute (as per the Version history)

I just tried it.

This won’t prevent dorico to write a marcato on every note, if you select more than one.

Lillie, I’ve tried this, but it’s not showing me a cautionary repetition of the playing technique.

the only way I can get the repeated technique text is to have a continuation line.
there is no option in the “duration line” pull-down for an invisible line, or no line at all.

Please share the/a project where you’re finding that to be the case, because I find with both text and glyph playing techniques that both a) explicitly setting the continuation to be “Line”, and b) setting the line style to be “None”, produces the desired effect.

I had no option for “none/no line”.

I created one, however, and I now get the desired result.

thank-you for your patience.

Ah, I was referring to the property described in the link in my previous comment, which allows you to change the line style of individual instances of playing techniques. I wasn’t referring to the default setting for each playing technique in the Edit Playing Techniques dialog. (I embed links in my comments on the forum for a reason)

because this particular technique appears with a certain regularity in my orchestral scores I wanted a “marc. sempre” with no line, but repeating in parentheses, as a default version of that new technique.

is there any way of having the “continuation” text (that appears on a 2nd page or system) be different?

for example, have “Lyrico” as the initial expressive text, then have “(sempre Lyrico)” as the continuation?