Extending note stem to other staff/turning off collision avoidance

Hi, I’m trying to achieve the cross-staff effect from the first photo from MuseScore, in which the stem from the bass clef joins the stem of a different voice on the upper staff. The 2nd photo is what I have right now in Dorico, and the 3rd is what happens when I manually drag the stem up. Is there a way to keep it from doing that? I see you can just manually move the treble clef closer to the bass, but this means that things change when the system is moved to another page. So, is there a smoother way to do it? Also curious if there’s a way for Dorico to match the thumb bracket fingering in the top chord of the last measure of the MuseScore one (between F♯ and G♯).

Welcome to the forum, @connoramckenna!
You could turn off auto-resolve collisions under Library->Layout Options->Vertical Spacing, but might have unwanted side effects.

Otherwise, I’m not sure if there’s a better way.

Half note in lower staff with cross staff up for the top note.

Then hide the notehead for the half note.

And suppress playback.

For the bracket, try the Non Arpeggio under ornaments. Shift-O nonarp.

Jesper

Hi, do you mean that the only way to do the thing with the voices/hidden notehead is also to disable collision avoidance, or is that a separate solution? I end up with this:

A separate solution. Could you share the file? From your picture, maybe check that the voice column index matches.

Jesper

@Derrek, If you put the hidden note a third above, there’s no need to change the voice column index.

Jesper

Here’s my opinion. I’m not convinced by the notation in MuseScore; a shared stem with half notes and quavers… and a quaver-rest that’s right up against the stem. Your notation in Dorico seems clearer to me. If the purpose of that stem is to indicate that the third should be played with the C-sharp in the right hand, there are other ways of showing this (a hook or angular line); but bear in mind that when faced with this sort of score, a pianist will know what to do without needing their hands to be guided!

On the other hand, I’m not entirely convinced by your enharmonic treatment of G double-sharp (whether it’s in the bass clef or the treble clef.). If the composer has specified G double-sharp, then G double-sharp is what should be written.

Got it! Had to change the voice column index (very new to Dorico). Thank you!

Hi, I am the composer and the pianist. Agree about the rest (which isn’t present in Dorico), but my goal is to match the way I input the piece in MuseScore. I think it’s more accurate to write A♮than G𝄪, which is why I’ve changed that.

I don’t think so.

Your music, your choice.

(But I would not.)