Extra dot when pencil editing dynamics

Dorico
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I get an extra dot when pencil editing where I don’t insert anything. And if I delete it, the hairpin is also deleted.

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Hi @Tomas_E , that point shows the end of the hairpin, that is now shrunk down because you added other points after the beginning of it, at a rhythmical position after its original start point. So the original (green region) hairpin still exists but is shrunk down, due to the override added points (blue region).

When you draw , be sure you start horizontally at the same rhythmical position (horizontally very near to the original start point rhythm grid line) of the the hairpin origin/start point (that is also the rhythmical position of the immediate dynamic), so that the whole hairpin will be overridden (and the immediate dynamic too), including the origin/start point, (and both immediate dynamic and hairpin will stay in the score), and no unwanted endpoint of it will appear.

Here a video to show what happens, and how to overcome/avoid this:

And here a faster way how to correct it, just adding another point that overrides the original point :wink: :

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I do wish that Dorico could intuit the difference between override automation and original/automatic dynamics, and connect between them (rather than creating that awkward point).

Anyway what I usually do is use the line tool or pencil tool and start drawing right before the first original point, and just after the second original point (basically expanding its boundary slightly, by “coloring” outside the green region). It seems to prevent the problem and it will leave the hairpin as is.

Alternatively, and more often, I automate the actual CC lanes used by my instruments (so not the Dynamics lane). Most commonly this will be either CC11 or CC1. Anything you draw here, whether too short or too long, will not change hairpins (and if you add hairpins afterwards, it will not change the automation).

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Thank you @Christian_R and @wing!

I find both your solutions to be good ones. Only different approaches depending on needs.

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Great, glad we could help. I actually learned most of what I know about automation from the master @Christian_R :pray::slightly_smiling_face:

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You are welcome, @Tomas_E.

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