Feature request: manual staff visibility without system break

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Would be great to be able to hide individual staff bars via manual staff visibility without adding system breaks for purpose of hidden playback as in this post.

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You can just Remove the extra staff at any rhythmical position, after inputting the Music for Playback. You just need to remember where you created the extra staff with extra music. That’s why I suggested to better use staff manual visibility (even if it extends to the whole system): to have a hint (in the system break signpost) that there there is something that can be possibly hidden.

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Or add a comment?

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Great idea, @asherber! :grinning_face:

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I was thinking that it would be nice if Dorico could do some of this automatically: If I add a staff and then completely remove it without first deleting all the music in the staff, then leave a signpost there so I can see where it was. (And so I don’t get frustrated when I forget about the staff but still hear the music!) And if I actually wanted to remove the staff and the music, I could then delete the signpost, and Dorico would clean up for me.

Another possibility would be for Dorico to let me add a new kind of staff – a playback staff – just as an ossia staff is a special kind of extra staff. A playback staff could be able to be hidden, leaving a signpost behind, whereas removing a playback staff would delete the contents of the staff as well.

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I would love this. Although, I can see it’s a bit weird notation-wise and could cause confusion with actual ossias and additional staves.

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Ok thanks for the replies.

I understand now that it’s a question of where you apply the staff-hiding via manual staff visibility which also determines where you actually add the playback-only staff above/below e.g. first measure of the flow (or any bar where a system break already occurs prior to the first playback-only event)

So one possible workflow:

1/ For dedicated playback-only staff, add staff above/below the desired instrument at first measure
2/ select first measure of playback-only staff and apply ‘manual staff visibility’ to hide - this hides for entire flow. Can then use Galley view to edit

…and then………I guess cancel that feature request ……apologies. Thanks again

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Yes indeed because advantage of using remove staff is that it applies to all layouts. Other method requires repeating manual staff visibility step for parts also - so great idea, might be the best method…