# Feature request: pedal line start that displays as a complete pedal change **URL:** \ **Category:** Dorico\ **Tags:** feature-request\ **Created:** [September 4, 2026, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/feature-request-pedal-line-start-that-displays-as-a-complete-pedal-change/1040613 "2026-09-04T21:33:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![gplumblee](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/gplumblee/32/327412_2.png) [@gplumblee](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/gplumblee)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/feature-request-pedal-line-start-that-displays-as-a-complete-pedal-change/1040613/1 "2026-09-04T21:33:57Z")
Would it be possible to add an option for a pedal line to begin with the appearance of a complete pedal change? When pedaling remains the same for several bars, the editor will often request _ped. simile_ and omit the pedal lines until the pattern changes. At that point, a short line leading to a pedal change is used to show that the pedaling continues from the earlier pedal lines. When this occurs at the beginning of a system, however, I currently have to use one of two workarounds: - Start the pedal line in the previous system and hide the unwanted section of the line in a staff line; or - Place the pedal change immediately after the downbeat and manually move it back into position. Neither solution is ideal, since manual positioning can change inadvertently during later edits. A dedicated “pedal line start” option that displays the start as a complete pedal change would avoid these workarounds and make this situation much easier to handle. ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/original/4X/7/a/d/7ad76e97a154dd823d11a0238521e0df1d8d9c14.png) ---
**Author:** ![Christian\_R](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/christian_r/32/188142_2.png) [@Christian\_R](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Christian_R)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/feature-request-pedal-line-start-that-displays-as-a-complete-pedal-change/1040613/2 "2026-09-06T13:33:11Z")
Hi @gplumblee, another, possibly comfortable, workaround would be to substitute the **Right pedal pictogram** with a retake glyph [edit: see the EDIT below for a better glyph]… ![CleanShot 2026-09-06 at 15.26.15@2x](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/original/4X/4/d/4/4d4380c9a59d16e0f11892afbd1684a356f9b960.jpeg) … then change this Engraving option to zero out the gap… ![CleanShot 2026-09-06 at 15.25.16@2x](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/original/4X/e/9/5/e9500f8def0200c0cf851f9a23102916138afad0.png) …and set **Symbol** as **Sign appearance** in the properties of that segment: ![CleanShot 2026-09-06 at 15.27.40@2x](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/original/4X/e/b/5/eb5312e27fbc65cce4cb9aecb2e7a53fe7908fb5.png) Result: ![CleanShot 2026-09-06 at 15.28.22@2x](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/original/4X/b/c/5/bc5070a64893fd17350ef4bb92ead753c1620ec8.png) Dorico file example: [fake retake after sim. pedal line.dorico](https://forums.steinberg.net/uploads/short-url/8DIOPwDQF66C9BS9ORQLt8PMOIR.dorico) (1.3 MB) **EDIT: I see that the used glyph is a bit taller than normal. There is the possibility of creating a graphic using the graphic slice of an existing retake, exported as SVG. Shortly I try to post this alternative …** * * * Here an updated version of the file: [fake retake after sim. pedal line-V2.dorico](https://forums.steinberg.net/uploads/short-url/ie8fmOhIPHPptu2SLtIV1vhDb4.dorico) (1.3 MB) I used an SVG obtained with a graphic slice of a retake. Here the SVG that you can import (after unzipping): [fake retake.svg.zip](https://forums.steinberg.net/uploads/short-url/thqDSSclFNqHTMRTJNmYHyAAiDl.zip) (1.1 KB) You need possibly to use negative values for the gap engraving option. Result V2: ![CleanShot 2026-09-06 at 16.07.02@2x](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/original/4X/a/5/d/a5d4d74b40402b0eedd935bb1f70937590683550.png) ---
**Author:** ![gplumblee](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/gplumblee/32/327412_2.png) [@gplumblee](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/gplumblee)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/feature-request-pedal-line-start-that-displays-as-a-complete-pedal-change/1040613/3 "2026-09-06T15:06:14Z")
Thank you. I’ll give that a try. I had tried the glyph, but I forgot about creating a graphic. ---
**Author:** ![Christian\_R](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/christian_r/32/188142_2.png) [@Christian\_R](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Christian_R)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/feature-request-pedal-line-start-that-displays-as-a-complete-pedal-change/1040613/4 "2026-09-06T20:00:54Z")
> [@gplumblee](#): > > I forgot about creating a graphic Engrave mode\> **Graphic Slices** tool: ![CleanShot 2026-09-06 at 22.00.04@2x](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/original/4X/8/8/e/88ef9f49eb0c10f37da3e86a041b357cf5a5e312.png) ---
**Author:** ![gplumblee](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/gplumblee/32/327412_2.png) [@gplumblee](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/gplumblee)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/feature-request-pedal-line-start-that-displays-as-a-complete-pedal-change/1040613/5 "2026-09-06T20:15:31Z")
This works, Christian. I had to tweak the vector file a little. I’m attaching my .svg file here. [fake retake.svg.zip](https://forums.steinberg.net/uploads/short-url/w5y6bpTgeyovxnZW3X8NHo4mDCx.zip) (1.2 KB) ---
**Author:** ![Christian\_R](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/christian_r/32/188142_2.png) [@Christian\_R](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Christian_R)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/feature-request-pedal-line-start-that-displays-as-a-complete-pedal-change/1040613/6 "2026-09-06T20:22:04Z")
Glad to help, @gplumblee. 🙂 > [@gplumblee](#): > > I had to tweak the vector file a little. Yes, the SVG should be cropped exactly (I edited it in Inkscape, as I cannot understand how Affinity(Vector) works for such things) * * * (probably my first reply has more explanation related to your original request then my second reply, for the solution checkmark)