Files Saved After Choosing Not to Activate Will Never Load VSTs Again

Files Saved After Choosing Not to Activate (remember this selection never checked) Will Never Load VSTs Again. This has happened on every version of Dorico used so far, including 5.1.70. Everything works perfectly, right up until I forget that I haven’t activated the VSTs whilst I was simply copying something to paste in another file. I go to quit Dorico a d reflexively hit “cmd + S.” Oops too late. That file is never loading VSTs again. Sure you can activate, it just wont load the actual VSTs anymore. The only fix is to cut and paste the entirety of its content into a previous version of the file that hopefully has the exact same stave and VST setup. Pease put this one on the lust to fix! Thanks!

This sounded odd to me, so I tried it and was surprised to find that I could reproduce it.

  1. Open one file
  2. Open a second file, click “Do not activate” when prompted
  3. Save the second file
  4. Close all files
  5. Reopen the second file. It looks like playback is activated, but the file doesn’t actually play back.

For me, reloading the playback template got everything wired up again.

Since you are able to reproduce, it seems to imply its a bug associated with save states (mistaking current for desired). Kind of defeats the purpose of the option at startup.

I’ve had some interesting results reloading playback templates before, so I try to avoid it. But if I’m in a crunch, I’ll give it a shot. Thanks.

It does feel buggy to me, especially because I can’t seem to reproduce it with just a single project, using the setting “Activate project when only one project”. I wonder whether there’s some other explanation.

I’ve not been able to reproduce this as described. For me, having closed both open projects, when I then reopen the second project (the one that had never been activated when it was last opened), the project becomes activated and plays back as expected.

@dspreadbury Try making a small change in the second file before saving, to make sure that Dorico actually writes something to disk. I’m able to repro this with brand new files from the solo piano template in 5.1.70.

When I reopen the second file, though playback looks like it’s activated and the track looks like it’s wired up, the HALion Sonic window does not show any instruments loaded.

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Here’s a copy of the second file. Peeking inside and comparing it to the original, I can see that it’s missing the file supplementary_data/vstaudioengine/enginedata.

Deactivated.dorico (424.1 KB)

Thanks for looking into it.

Actually, this seems to have nothing to do with the “Ask” setting, or with the initial state of the project.

  1. Open a project
  2. Verify playback
  3. Deactivate playback
  4. Save As a new project and close
  5. Reopen the new project
  6. Playback is active but project will not play

Interesting. Thanks for experimenting.

I can reproduce the problem described by Aaron in his most recent post. We’ll investigate this and fix it in due course.

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Awesome. As always, thanks so much for the unparalleled efforts of the team to make Dorico the gold standard for music notation.

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