Finale to Dorico Instrument Setup

I am one of the many users trying or converting to Dorico from Finale. I teach music so I have band arrangements. My primary instrument is percussion so I have even more warmups, cadences, features, etc.

I imported a standard marching band cheer arrangement. After learning I have to do a separate ARIA player for each instrument I still do not have percussion sounds. I went into Setup and changed to Marching Snare drums and moved stuff to where I am used to using. I clicked OK and went to Tenors then Bass Drums. I went back to snare but the program reverted back to the original. I check Tenors and Basses and they did as well. So, what did I miss?

I have not purchased, just the trial. I have worked with this for several hours to get no where. I cannot see spending 12 hours per arrangement to make it correct.

Welcome, @CBAshley . Sorry you’re having problems - I know it can be a bit overwhelming.

Can you share the project here?

Are you on Windows or Mac? If you’re on Mac, you should have a Multi-output version of the ARIA VST.

On Windows, MM didn’t update it, so all instruments in the same VST have to output on the same audio channel.

I’d perhaps try using the default HALion sounds first, which are all set up and configured correctly.

Using Garritan instruments is possible, but you’ll need to setup Percussion maps and Expression Maps yourself. Users (like me) have created some.

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There is a marching percussion sample library, supported by Dorico, called Virtual Drum Line. It needs Kontakt, probably the full version.

What about changing information in Setup just for it to revert back?

I’m not sure I understand what you mean by this? Do you want to reset the samples?

You can apply a new Playback Template from the Play menu.

On Windows I’m pretty sure there is (at least was) a Multi-output Aria Player; it just is not VST3.

Do VST2 plug-ins work?

(And indeed, will they continue to work in the future? I imagine that people will want to setup things that are going to last…)

VST2 plug-ins do work on PC’s.

Whether and how long they will continue to do so, I have no idea. Believe me, I wish that Garritan/Plogue had updated the Windows Aria Multi-Player to VST3 when they had updated the Mac Player to work with the new Apple processors.

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There are 4 modes. The first is SETUP. Can I not go into SETUP and change the instruments? I changed the marching percussion instruments, but the changes did not stay. Can I not add a sound such as a ride cymbal to the marching snare, even add hi-hat?

I have too many arrangements to have to either change instrument for instrument to get to work or to have enter each part note by note.

Dorico doesn’t know about how the ARIA percussion is laid out until someone tells it. (In the same that Finale doesn’t know about HALion percussion until someone tells it.)

It is possible to set up Dorico with the necessary information – and once that is done, then you just select your Garritan template (or even have it as your default), and then it will be entirely automatic.

There are a few other threads with discussions about the need for Garritan percussion maps and templates. As I said above – MM haven’t made it easy by making Mac and Windows versions of ARIA incompatible.

I would strongly recommend, in these early days, getting used to working with Dorico’s NOTATION for percussion, and then worry about getting the samples you want a bit later – possibly once people have done some work on your behalf.

@benwiggy
OT. As a Windows user, we can’t use your GPO playback templates, but can use the expression maps. Is there anything special about the instrument setup that we need to know. eg. what patches did you use in the template?
(sorry if this is an inconvenience)

They’ve got to fix this IMO if they’re still going to continue to sell Garritan products going forward and not discontinue them - it seems a bit ridiculous that the last update for ARIA was 2019 with no movement on these problems since then. Also, the issues with having no multi-out in the VST3 version. These make it much more awkward for Dorico customers than it needs to be, and it is something within MakeMusic’s power to fix (with some help from Plogue potentially).

If MakeMusic is serious about trying to help their Finale customers go to Dorico smoothly, they should be dealing with this and not just let it remain unresolved.

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Well, another issue with GPO5 is that there are SO many instruments to choose from. I created endpoints for SAM Brass, Non-SAM Brass, GPO Strings, GOS Strings, GOS Small Strings, Solo Strings; Woodwind, Keyboards, etc, etc – and arguably someone still might want a different configuration, depending on what they are doing.

I was actually just wondering if I could get a tame Windows ARIA user to add the instruments manually to some template files, and then create the Endpoints from there…

I’d be up for that, if I had a list to work from (but leave me out of the brass stuff!)

Back to the original question.

Can I not go to SETUP (Mode 1) & change a “player”, especially for a staff that has been imported?

I can create my own templates.

You can create Players; and you can delete Players. Players can hold Instruments, and you can change the instruments that Players hold.