Sigh. I’ve never seen a fingering number stuffed like this between the note and the accidental.
I’d be really grateful not to have to spend the next hours figuring it out. I’ll write down in my notes what I have learned, promise.
I am demoing Dorico at the moment, and the same happened to me when I assigned a fingering to the note and assigned it left of the note head. This may be an error in the program. In any case, you can just move the finger number to the other side of the flat in Engrave mode, and if you are happy with the position of the flat on the G, all is well.
However, of you decide to move the flat closer to the note head in Engrave mode, the whole chord shifts right, away from the finger number. This is probably a result of my inexperience:
Thanks for the reply, John.
I ended up moving notes around, mostly away from the treble clef, and as sometimes happens, problem went away, and I don’t know why.
But I did just realize that “Accidental X offset” appears in Engrave Mode, and sure enough it does as advertised. Live and learn.
Let’s see now, what piece was that I was working on?
It’s a bit unexpected to me that Dorico chooses to squeeze the fingering in between the notehead and the flat sign by default, but you certainly can’t say that it isn’t trying to be parsimonious when it comes to its use of horizontal space!
You can adjust a couple of the options on the Fingering page of Engraving Options to change this default behaviour. Probably you’ll find it’s sufficient to slightly increase the value of Minimum horizontal gap between fingering inside the staff and other items, to e.g. 1/5 space. That will cause the fingering number to pop to the other side of that flat.
Because fingerings to the left of notes are treated as part of the overall “solid space” for the note/chord/interlocking voices at that position. When you drag them to the left, you are effectively increasing the space occupied by the note/chord/interlocking voices, and so Dorico will then push everything to the right. This is generally what you want (you don’t want fingerings or accidentals from one chord clashing with the previous one when you drag them left).
Thanks for clearing that up, Daniel. That setting did the trick.
However, while I did notice how nicely Dorico added additional space to the left of the fingering when it was moved to the left of the accidental, I don’t understand why decreasing the distance between the lower accidental and the note would cause the whole chord to jump so far from the finger number. Example A shows the chord with the Accidental X offset = 0. Ex. B shows the chord with the Accidental X offset set to 1/8 space. Curiously when the X offset is set to -1/8, moving the accidental away from the chord, the chord doesn’t jump at all as seen in Example C.
I think you’ll need to provide me with your project file for me to diagnose this issue. In general this isn’t what happens, using factory settings.
Thank you, Daniel. I’m glad to hear that it isn’t a bug, It may have to do with my use of Maestro finger numbers instead of the default set, or some other personal setting, as you suspect. So I wouldn’t want to waste your time any further with it, since it isn’t crucial, unless you need to track it down for some reason, in which case I would be glad to supply the little file I made to test it.
Coming your way, tweaked so I could get on with my life, but I tried untweaking it just now, and that did set it back to what it was.
BWV 1001 Adagio.dorico (912.0 KB)
@spencered, in your case I think everything’s working as expected. Applying a rightwards delta to the accidental doesn’t add lots of space, like it does in John’s example with his own custom fonts and settings. You have the choice of either adjusting the Accidental X offset property or using the Engraving Options setting I suggested earlier in the thread.