Fingering rest collision problem and cross hand fingerings

[DennisMusic]

Stuck on a a simple fingering entry. Editing some organ music. In 3 parts:

1. Added rest in voice 1

   

2. Changed the Y offset to -1, (couldn’t find an option change in notation or engraving options)

   

3. Added a fingering to 3rd beat E and the rest moved and added the dash above (if I didn’t change the Y offset this is just added to the top of the rest)

Is there any way to add fingerings without the rest moving? Related: So many organ editions keep all the right hand fingerings above and left below even when hands cross staff. Finding this impossible in Dorico. Any suggestions?

Thanks! Dennis

[asherber]

It looks like Dorico doesn’t want to put the fingering above the rest, because it belongs with the note – so it moves the rest out of the way.

There are some other things you can adjust, but can you describe or show what you would like this to look like?

[DennisMusic]

I’m trying to replicate a fingering style similar to most Dupré editions.

I’ve come across these limitations in Dorico:

1. This rest issue, where it wants to force voice one rests above the voice 2 fingerings
2. The inability to use dashes to indicate held fingers
3. The inability to indicate fingerings in one hand that cross into a different clef, like beat 3 in the left hand in the following example.

[asherber]

Okay, but what do you want the screenshot from your first message to look like?

[DennisMusic]

I want to keep the fingerings above the staff and the rest to stay on the staff.

[DennisMusic]

Which I can move the rest, but that dash attached to the rest just hangs up there:

[asherber]

Instead of changing the Y offset of the rest, use the Rest Position property.