Formatting a page layout in Dorico 6

I loaded an old midi file into Dorico 6 a while ago and when I go into page mode or Engrave mode it displays the pages with different formatting. I have noticed this on other projects that I have only worked on in Dorico too. How can I change this as it is really annoying.

Write mode, Page view, should be the same as Engrave mode.

Check if you have Galley view activated in Write mode?

What is different? It seems there is no enough space to get 5 systems on page 2 so Dorico spaces the 4 systems equally on the page.

And a different layout of the first and subsequent pages is intended due to the default design of the page template sets.

Hi, I am talking about the two pages on screen. The right page has a different formatting to the Left one. The two instrument staves on the Left are closer together while the ones on the right are a different size and a different distance apart. The systems are a different distance apart on either page too. This problem is there whether I am in Write or Engrave mode. I have had this in other pieces that I have written in Dorico too and it looks really unprofessional. If this is a default on Dorico it is very poor.

Hi Nic. You’re using quite strong words here, for what seems to be a work in progress… First page uses First page template, which has a rather smaller music frame. Your second page uses a Default page template, which has a bigger music frame, so more space. Do you want the first page to have only three systems so that everything looks more evenly spaced? Either insert a frame break at the start of the fourth system, or change the inter-system gap in Layout options (or space size in Layout options>Page setup). In any case, showing both the title and the flow title here does look unprofessional, you could solve it in Layout options>Page setup>Flows (set the Show flow headings to Never, which will give you more space in the first page music frame).

Don’t be upset, there are solutions and we’re here to help :wink:

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To add to @MarcLarcher’s response, it’s a little hard to tell from your screenshot, but it looks to me like the staves are actually the same height, which is what I would expect.

In terms of the vertical spacing, that’s probably caused by your settings in Layout Options > Vertical Spacing > Vertical Justification, which let Dorico spread things out on page 2 to fill the larger frame.

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Hi I seem to have solved the problem. I went into settings and set it as 4 bars a line and it certainly helped. Not perfect but better.

Hi @Nic_62, adding to the very useful suggestions above, generally you should think about layout only when you are ready with inputting your music (Notes, Dynamics, Articulations, Slurs, Playing Techniques, Rehearsal Marks, etc…). The automatic layouting algorithm will display things very differently once you have all the items you need in your music.

Setting the Casting Off to 4 bars per system in this stage of the workflow will only make further adjustments necessary later, and you loose more time. So my suggestion is: write all what you need first (in Galley view if you don’t want the music to jump while inputting), then see what Dorico makes, and only then adjust the global options as necessary/desired. And at the end tweak manually those things that the global options didn’t solve, if absolutely necessary.
(With time you will then develop a feeling about which global option you want as default for all future Projects.)

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