The eighth notes in measure 15 in the left hand of the organ part should all be on one beam. Likewise, in measure 12, the quarter notes in measure 11 and the dotted half notes in measure 12 should all be aligned vertically instead of staggered. I will play with the spacing a bit but the organ part almost always is written on 3 staves - 1 for the pedal.
Like this?
Then you need to notate them as chords. During note entry, you can press Q to engage chord mode.
Yes, but Dorico comes with a 3-staff organ instrument, which gives better layout results than a 2-staff organ instrument plus another staff in a different instrument/player.
My suggestion was to move the notes from your pedal āinstrumentā to the third staff of a 3-staff organ instrument.
OK, this was imported from a Finale score so maybe the pedal as an extra player was part of that. For the layout, Iām still not sure why the Flow title is showing up when I donāt have that in my template. I understand now where to take it out globally but as you said, that will save all my settings and Iām not sure I want to do that and then have to change other things later because of that override.
The flow heading has its own template.
Dorico inserts this when instructed to by your Layout Settings.
It will save all your layout settings.
If you want to make just this one change to your saved settings, one way to do it is to start a new Dorico project. This project, of course, starts out with all of your default settings. Now go to Layout Settings and change that one setting, then click Save As Default. This will make sure that the only new setting youāre saving is the one you just changed.
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Thanks again. Iāve done much of what you suggested. I have three things I canāt figure out. On the first page, the bracket for the voices and the bracket for the Organ is not correct. It is correct on the second page and following. I donāt know how I might have messed that up or how to get it back to normal.
The second thing is there is plenty of room on the first page for there to be another system but I cannot get the first system on the second page to go onto the first page. If I do, I believe that will eliminate a page at the end of the piece because everything else will move up a system.
The third and least important thing is Iām wondering if there is a way to make the parts that I have marked as āFor Rehearsal Onlyā in the organ part to look like cue notes to further emphasize that it should be a cappella?
Thanks for all your help and time.
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It looks like thereās plenty of room because you have manually moved systems around, but thatās not how Dorico works; it calculates available space based on where it puts systems according to your settings in Layout Options, and it doesnāt recalculate when you make manual changes. If you donāt like the way things look, the way to best work with Dorico is to adjust the settings in Layout Options until things look just about the way you want, and then make a few small adjustments at the end.
If I go into Engrave mode and click on the Staff Spacing tool, I can see all kinds of red handles and red lines, indicating things that have been manually moved. This can be reset with Engrave > Staff Spacing > Reset Layout. And when you do that, youāll see that the first page brackets have also been reset!
Now, of course, you can see that the layout is kind of a mess, with all kinds of things overlapping. This just means that Dorico is unable to get things to fit well, given your choice of page size, space size, and ideal gaps.
The first thing I would suggest is turning off your fixed casting off settings (in Layout Options > Staves and Systems > Casting Off). Right away, you can see that you no longer have any overfull systems (which were indicated by red system fullness indicators in the right page margin). For my money, using fixed casting off is only useful if youāre working in a genre where thatās a requirement; it tends to cause more problems than itās worth otherwise.
To get two systems on each page, there are a few things you can try. Here are some things I did to get a slightly better result, but thereās still room for improvement.
- Change Layout Options > Page Setup > Space Size to rastral 6
- Change Layout Options > Vertical Spacing > Ideal Gaps > Inter-system gap to 6 spaces
- Change Layout Options > Vertical Spacing > Ideal Gaps > Staff to staff gap to 6 spaces
- Change Layout Options > Page Setup > Music Frame Margins > Bottom to 10pt (You can enter measurements in points like this even if your preferred measurement unit is something different.)
- In your Default Full Score template, since youāre not using the text frame at the bottom, delete it and extend the music frame down to the page margin
Now youāve got two systems on each page, although the spacing on the first 2 pages is still kind of tight. It gets a little better if you make the space size even a little smaller, for example changing from the current 3.9 pts to 3.8 pts. You can play with things further from here, basically tweaking combinations of the settings Iāve mentioned. (Changing the space size is the easiest way to fit more on a page, since it makes everything smaller ā but you also donāt want things to be so small that theyāre not readable.)
This oneās easy! Normally, the suggestion would be to use Doricoās built-in cue functionality, but itās a little trickier in this case, since the organ part isnāt strictly a cue from some other instrument. But you can select all of the organ notes in these sections, open the bottom Properties panel, and change the Scale property to Cue.
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Nice job @asherber
Jesper
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Last question. Iāve done all you suggested and you are certainly correct, that is a lot easier than me adjusting each system manually. The only thing I canāt figure out (for this project) is why my subtitle is not showing up under my Title. I have extended the text box and added the token for it as well as inserting the subtitle (Hymn Tune name) in the Project Properties under Subtitle. Why wonāt it show up?
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Because you have an override on page one (shown by the red triangle)ā¦
That means your new page template cannot be applied. If you right-click that page icon you can remove page overrides and your subtitle will magically appear.
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Thanks. I just figured that out and came here to tell you I figured it out so you didnāt need to answer me but you beat me to it. Thanks again.