FR: Beam together beams to next note

I’m recreating a 120-page manuscript with syllabic beaming, so I’ve entered into one of Dante’s infamous layers. Not sure which one yet…

A little thing, but a huge help: could “Beam Together” behave like slurs? That is, if only one note is selected, “Beam Together” would beam to the next note.

Presently this action results in a partial beam. I don’t know what that is or does, so perhaps it’s important, but IMO this would be much more common. I’ve set “Beam Together” to an easily-accessible keystroke, but it’s still slow to select multiples.

PS: as a bonus, pressing the keystroke for “Beam Together” again would extend the beaming. So to beam three 8ths together, select the first and press the keystroke twice.

All the standard disclaimers, just a suggestion!

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So you are hell bent on getting it right.

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Dear Dan, I’ve been using Dorico for six years, making almost exclusively syllabic beaming. I don’t understand your workflow : why should you need to beam together from a note, when the logical process is to unbeam when needed? Let Dorico beam everything as it does, then use unbeam or break beam (alt-b and cmd-alt-b are my shortcuts). You really don’t need anything else. Well, you could use Reset beaming (my shortcut is cmd-alt-ctrl-B) to start the whole process by the right end now :wink:

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There are very few melismas in this manuscript (German Apostolic hymnbook), as the music is not very florid, so it made more sense to unbeam everything, and only beam when needed.

But I’m not experienced at syllabic beaming, so maybe your way is still better.

Finale (as you know) works similarly and I really like this functionality. In Speedy, Slash either breaks or joins a beam, sort of like a Toggle Beam State command could in Dorico. You don’t have to waste time selecting multiple notes, just position the caret, hit /, and the note can either be beamed to the next group, or made unbeamed if currently beamed. Fast and easy.
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Yep, I had forgotten, but it’s coming back to me. I do recall it was pretty fast.

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Cool idea, to make it behave like a slur!

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Yes that would be a wonderful feature, if beaming could behave like that! I have a related beaming issue: I’m using 3/4 / 6/8, and the melody lines in 6/8 need to be beamed manually — but Dorico cannot ‘beam together’ with a note that is tied to another note. so the tie has to be first separated, the correct rhythm established and beamed, locked, and then re-tied. If ‘beam together’ just beamed to the next note, as you suggest, this would be much easier…

@dan_kreider: Sorry I missed your post in Dec. 2022, as I would have suggested entering the notes and lyrics of your project in Finale, which has a dedicated function ‘Beam to lyrics’. You could have saved the file as an XML and told Dorico to respect the beaming of the original file. Might have been a lot quicker than having to do the syllabic beaming manually.

I’m very much against Beaming to lyrics for many reasons, but I do understand there being a need for it for certain projects, like Dan’s.