I am not sure if anyone from Steinberg see’s these posts but I am here to make a desperate plea. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, like every other DAW on the market, make Cubase full screen on a MAC, I really am struggling to understand why this has not been done yet.
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Welcome! I’ll feel silly if I’m missing something simple, but what exactly do you mean by “make Cubase full screen on a Mac?”
Addendum: Never mind, I think I know what they mean. I have a different workflow so my mind didn’t even connect the dots. Figured I’d clear that up rather than just deleting my post.
For obvious reasons I can’t show the same for Cubase
Even on top Live shaves off couple of pixels. And it just looks better, which still providing access to the top menu (it slides down when mouse pointer is at the top):
It’s particularly important for us laptop peasants
Hahaha. I too used Ableton on my side to figure out what they meant That manner of windows-style usage drives me crazy, which is why my brain didn’t even match up his description. But to each their own!
In my case, making music is just a hobby and until at least one of my 3 kids move out, I don’t have a space for proper studio, which includes no separate screen (or audio monitors for that matter, just headphones)
Having said that, such a setup works great for Live, Bitwig, Studio One or Reason all of which support full screen, at least on macOS (Reason doesn’t on Windows), so I can’t see why Cubase wouldn’t.
I apologize if what I was saying wasn’t clear enough but I think you all understand what I mean… For reference here are 3 screenshots of how the DAWS appear on my monitor. You can see that even when Cubase is full screen, the Mac task bar is still visible. In my opinion its just such a waste of space and does make things a bit more squashed.
I can compare to Live (but not the others as I don’t use them) and say that the overall window management is quite different. Live basically lives in one screen anyway. Cubase’s “workspace” approach is rather different, and for me, “better.”
I try not to be the “do it this way instead” guy when people ask how to do specific things, but I will make a suggestion as something to try in the meantime: Desktop Manager. I’m also a “laptop peasant,” though my rig is typically docked with multiple monitors. But when I take my MBP out (and even when docked) I make extensive use of multiple desktops for my different windows in Cubase (and others). I would recommend at least trying to put your main project “full screen” in one desktop, and just 4-finger-swipe between other desktops with full-screen mixer and midi panels. It’s instantaneous and clutter-free. You never know - you may like it, at least until (if) changes are made that better suit your preference.
It’s unbelievable how this is not implemented yet. I was about to switch to Cubase 3 times in the last 5 years and the lack of full screen on Cubase literally made me give up on it.
As a Mac user Cubase is a no go for me this way. There’s no need to hear any Cubase explanations about how the GUI is window-based, etc, because if this is why you can’t fix it, then this is part of the problem. All serious Mac ecosystem apps have a proper Mac full screen implementation - see the other DAWs if you want. You should know pretty well what’s wrong with Cubase in that regard. I used Cubase for years before and wanted to give it a chance again, but I’m very disappointed. I’m checking every new release if this has been fixed, but still no. Shame. Very disappointed because I like many, many aspects of Cubase.
Cubendo’s windowing on MacOS is built around the flexibility of multiple separate windows combined with powerful Workspace capabilities. Distinct windowing also lets you take full advantage of the MacOS “desktops” to instantly switch between what can be set up as “near full-screen” desktops if you are using a single-monitor/laptop. What you call “proper” is another’s “implementation choice.” There’s nothing you can’t do now, but there is potentially lots you won’t be able to do in a “parent” environment.
There’s nothing to “fix,” by the way - this is a design decision, and a good one in my opinion.
But anyway, welcome to the forum even if it is to say “goodbye.”
This implies a bug of sort, but, as has been pointed out so neatly by @Thor.HOG, it’s really a design choice.
I’m astonied once more that someone should go to all the trouble of creating a profile on this forum just to rant and then disappear. And not even a current Cubase user.
There’s nowt so strange as folk.
Nope. This is not a design choice. This is a bug they can’t fix, since their engine is deeply made for Windows in the first place. The way macOS handle UI is way different than Windows, so to fix that, they will have to rewrite a lot of their UI implementation.
I’m not surprised at all. Most people here does not help much and prefer to make a person feel stupid when he or she asked a legit question. That’ simply the reality of forums nowadays, this one is no different.
Back to the question/rant about Cubase not being able to do full screen, I asked this directly to Steinberg like 7 years ago when I switched from Windows to Mac. They said they can’t. The UI design does not work on Mac. This is a limitation of their own framework. This is not a “design” choice.
Since Cubase is quite full of icons, toolbars, and stuff, even when we can hide a lot of them, still looks bloated on Mac. It feels claustrophobic when one has complex sessions. That extra space is needed.
That is the main reason, amongst others, that I decided to switch to Ableton. Ableton is no perfect neither and I truly miss Cubase so when they release a new version, I always wish they finally fixed the full screen…. but they don’t. So I stay in Ableton.
For starters and no offense intended: @Thor.HOG definetly knows his stuff - your knowledge is based on a single mail from 7 years ago. You are not even a Cubase user anymore.
What’s your mission here?
Usually, I don’t respond to posts like that.Yeah, I shouldn’t…
If Thor.HOG is not working for the dev team at Steinberg’s headquarters, his knowledge is as good as mine. His opinion would be pure speculation, and in my case, at last, I had a real answer.
Also, this morning I was still having hope that Cubase had fixed this, so I search and stumble upon this post. So hence my presence. But since, “what’s your mission here” is a good and welcoming reply… I won’t give a f**k anymore. Have a good life!
I am sorry to hear that.
Educated and qualified comments like
will be deeply missed.
Our loss.
There are specific questions that can only be answered by the dev team who have acces to the code. True. Other questions can be answered by having in-depth knowledge about operating systems and its limitations. I highly doubt that your answer above was provided by a Steinberg representative, btw.
Critical reflections/contributions based on facts are almost welcome in this forum and contribute to the well-known and established culture of discussion here. If you want to go the other way then have at it. In this case, it might happen that your comment is met with a critical reply. Sorry, you got to live with that I’m afraid.
From Cubase 13, the whole of Cubase’s windowing system has been changed. And still no “full screen”. How is this not a “design choice”?
And are the dozen pixels needed for the Title bar really so necessary? Even on a laptop?
I do not understand the usage of the confrontational style here.
All I see are two people requesting a feature and also showing their disappointment about the current lack of it a bit. Why would that be a “mission”?