The following bug has been present in Cubase for a few versions.
If you create an FX channel and then want to route a group and the FX channel to the group, this isn’t possible. You have to create the group first and then the FX channel.
Has anyone noticed this yet?
I don’t understand. Route the group to itself? Can you write it out more clearly?
Routing to itself isn’t possible. Cubase avoids loops.
If you have enabled the automatic creation of the sends in the channels, this will block your desired routing.
OK. I’ve created a video showing it. I create an EF channel and then a group. I can’t send the FX channel to a group.
What about your sends?
As @st10ss already said on post 3, if you uncheck the automatic creation of the sends on preferences then you will be able to do what you want.
thanks for the tip
Indeed. And I’ve thought this was a bug for years. But please explain to me why this is happening.
Why can’t you send the FX track to a group when this function is enabled? That has nothing to do with it.
because if enabled, then group is already sending to fx via sends, so you can not send the fx out to group, it will create a feedback loop
But if I don’t activate this function, I can still route the FX channel to a group and also send the FX channel to the same group via the send.
It’s not feedback either. The signal gets louder, yes, but it’s not feedback.
That’s different. In the case you are describing it’s not, you are just sending a signal to a group using two different ways simultaneously: via sends and output.
In the other case, you will send the fx signal to a group, and this group will again be sending the signal received to the fx; and this will keep going forever, that’s the feedback loop
The key to understand what is happening is to understand first what the automatic send enabling will mean to the routing.
You can check it by unassigning the connection to the FX that gets automatically set in the group.
It means you have to delete that particular routing.
Yes, now I understand. I was under the misconception that I never use the send channel of a group, but only in audio tracks. That’s why I didn’t realize it
The automatic send assignments would help in some situations, but are in most situations not really helpful.
I experimented with it in the past, but disabled it and never looked back.
I see it completely differently. Although it bothers me that I can’t route the send to a group with automatic send assignment if the group was created after the send, I’ll still leave automatic send assignment enabled. It’s really useful and only a hindrance for me in this one case.
I think this feature works best when we start a blank project, set up 8 FX tracks (or AUXs), and then we start to add tracks/channels as we go. (sort of how we would plug microphones into a live desk as needed. Groups - in the Yamaha mixing board sense of the word, would also have to be created right after the FX channels, so that they too can send to an FX/AUX.)
But if one works the opposite way, adding instruments, FX, and routing as they go from the very beginning, I don’t think this preference has anything to offer for them.
You can. You just have to remove the send on the group channel that was automatically created.
Yes. Actually. I hadn’t thought of that before. Thanks a million for that. It actually makes sense now
Well…the bug usually lies in front of the DAW
I’m almost embarrassed