I want a vocal that works in the opposite way to side chain. Delay effect on during vocal, off during silence. One immediately thinks Gate, however no matter how I setup I always hear a repeat during silence.
It must be possible because I can do this using volume automation. I assume the volume automation is reading ahead and gate is not.
Any ideas ?
How did you set up the delay and the gate? I just tried it by using an FX channel with a delay followed by a gate insert where the latter is side-chained with the vocal track. I also set attack and hold of the gate to their minimum values. With these settings, the gate closes immediately as soon as the level of the vocal falls below the gate’s threshold and there are no echos “bleeding” into the silence.
It’s exactly as @Martin90 says.
The delay’s sidechain input ducks the delay signal. So, if you use the dry signal on the sidechain, the delay signal will be attenuated during the high dry signal and output at normal level during the low dry signal (or silence). That’s how classic delay ducking works, as you correctly stated.
If you want to reverse this, you need to place a gating effect after the delay and drive its sidechain with the dry signal. The effects must be sent (not inserted) because an effect cannot have its own track’s signal used as a sidechain.
That’s exactly what I have been trying. I must be doing something wrong !
On the gate how do you have your range and threshold ?
I cannot get a clear setting . Its either all on or all off.
Yea thanks for your effort. I have same settings. Perhaps I am expecting too much but I still hear that delay after the main track. Perhaps it is the 10ms minimum that is the problem. As stated earlier using automation the cut is exact presumably because cubase is reading ahead. I think I need a delay that reads ahead !!
Ahh well back to automation.
Forgive me for asking, but you have the inserts in the FX track in the same order, right?
Yep delay then gate. It does work but not as well as using automation unfortunately.
Is this the Release time? Maybe try another gate. Unfiltered Audio G8 goes to 1 ms.
Thanks to all. As directed by Googly_Smythe the solution was a look ahead gate (which I did not know existed) Using Fabfilter Pro G perfect results.
Perhaps we will see something similar from Steinberg in Cubase XXX
