Getting rid of a 1/8 "bar"

[Lynn_Newton]

I’m doing a version of an old standard song. It starts on an upbeat, and repeats for the second verse after 7/8 of a bar. This works fine. There is a first ending and a second ending. Notice the attachment the second ending starts with an eighth rest. What precedes the first ending is a full bar. How do I get rid of this single eighth “bar”? Everything I have tried pulls the music over an eighth and so it’s all wrong to the end.

I know there’s a simple solution. I just can’t seem to find what it is.

Thanks!

[jesele]

Shift-B -1e with the rest selected perhaps.

Jesåer

[Lynn_Newton]

No I tried Shift+B -1e. That causes all the music to shift back an eighth to the end of the piece.

I just noticed in the image there are measure numbers in light gray. The number 10 is duplicated above the eighth rest. I don’t know if that’s a clue. The eighth upbeat at the beginning of the song is numbered 0. This all seems correct.

[charles_piano]

You can try this:

Activate Insert Mode > Global Adjustment of Current Bar^[1] (the 4th sub mode), select the eighth rest and press Delete.

But is it what you want?

Or do you want a full bar before the repeat?

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[Lynn_Newton]

Yes! Global Adjustment of Current Bar and then Delete is exactly what I wanted to do — just whack it out of there. The last thing before that second ending is a full bar.

The first ending bar has only 7 eighths because the tune starts on an eighth note upbeat, and it repeats back to the beginning. This is pretty typical stuff, nothing fancy.

I keep forgetting there are those weird sub-options in insert mode. I should really read what they do again so that I think of them next time a use for them comes up.

This problem is solved. Thanks very much!

[charles_piano]

@Lynn_Newton

those weird sub-options in insert mode.

Maybe this post could help you. It’s more about adding music than deleting, but the pinciple is the same!

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[Derrek]

Had I the option, I would put a forward repeat barline after the eighth pickup at the beginning of the piece and reproduce the pickup eighth at the end of the first repeat to make it a full measure.

[Lynn_Newton]

Thanks @charles_piano for the link to that page. It’s not relevant to what I’m working on now, but is instructive.

@Derrek I understand what you’re saying, and I could have done it that way. However, there are three verses of lyrics, and to do it that way would have put the first syllable of the second and third verses in the last eighth note of the first ending, while the first note remains isolated as a lone upbeat. I don’t think that’s a good choice stylistically.

What I’m doing is typing in a song from the American Standards repertoire, one written in 1939, one that many people today would still know. What I have is the melody in bass clef and chord symbols, a basic lead sheet that I got from a screen dump. I chose tenor singer for the voice part (treble clef with the 8 on the tail), and I’m going to develop a piano part. I’ve got everything in and done right so far, in one sitting. Now I can do a piano part from scratch.