Graphic EQ

Dorico
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I have been using Dorico for a year now, but bought Cubase in the Black Friday Sale, -which I’m happy to say includes a native graphic equaliser plugin. I’ve been using a similar EQ from waves, but it causes so many headaches, I wondered if there was someway of ‘porting’ the Cubase plugin so it’s available to use in Dorico?

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Isn’t it already?

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You can use VST3 plugins in Dorico already. Simply select the one you want to use.

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The EQ plug-in called Frequency , that is also part of the Cubase plug-in-set, is also bundled with Dorico

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Thanks Derrek, Romanos and Ulf, In Dorico I can access the EQ plugins called DJ Eq and Frequency, which ship with Dorico, but I was trying to find a way to access the Cubase plugin called GEQ-30 specifically. I’ve tried using the “Clear Audio Engine Cache’ in Dorico preferences, which makes Dorico re-scan the vsts. I’m new to Cubase so not sure where the Cubase fx plug-ins are to be found. They are not in my VST3 folder where I can find Halion and Groove agent etc? Maybe it’s not possible though?

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The plug-ins that come with Dorico are placed inside the application bundle, and so do the Cubase plug-ins, so it is not intended that Dorico users can use the Cubase plug-ins (except for the ones that are actually contained in both).

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Thank you for clarifying that for me Ulf. I can explore other options now! Best Ian

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With Dorico and Cubase getting closer together, it may be worth thinking about making the VST’s available in both programs - providing, of course, you own both programs.

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Thanks David, what you suggest would sure be useful!

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You should still be able to move the plugin to a general VST folder and have Dorico see it. I can call ProEQ4 (as well as oodles of others) from Dorico, and it doesn’t ship with either Cubase or Dorico.

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I guess locking inside each app prevents any issues of version mis-match; but it’s a shame that you can’t use all the Cubase effects in Dorico.

Moving the plug-ins out of the bundle might cause problems – OSes can check the integrity of applications, as prevention against malicious ‘tampering’. Copying them would be better, but then you’ve got duplicates.

I’ve noted that Cubase has also got bundled some nice sounds for metronome clicks, which I might repurpose for Dorico. I remember Ulf describing a method of changing the sounds, somewhere.

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Hi James.

I tried that earlier, just to see if it could be done. I drilled down through Cubase’s contents to their VST3 folder, went for one of the Cubase VST’s (the largest, then Cubase Plug-in set), copied it into the regular VST3 folder, reset things in Dorico so that it would rescan the VST’s but unfortunately it didn’t appear in Dorico. TBH I wasn’t surprised.

I’m sure there are good reasons why things are set up the way they are and I’m equally sure it wouldn’t be simple to change that. The only suggestion I have is that maybe locked-in VST’s can be repurposed and downloaded via the Steinberg Download Manager which would check if users had both apps.

That’s probably not easy either… :rofl:

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I guess the thing is: if you bought a product, and it includes VSTs (which are general use things, and applicable in many contexts and supported by oodles of programs) then you shouldn’t be restricted from using those things elsewhere. Then again, I’m sure someone could say that it is similar to bundled fonts which are sometimes restricted, depending on the program. I suppose the license permits usage within that program and any derivative works, but not usage by 3rd party programs and systems. (The fonts issue is just as much a pity as the VST issue…)

3rd party VSTs work in any case (thankfully). Sad for the OP though.

Whatever the reason, I would certainly expect that any steinberg VSTs that are owned by a customer should be accessible by the other steinberg software on the same computer.

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