Hunting for a way to move automation on my group tracks, so that when I move audio parts feeding the group channel, the group automation moves too - is this possible?
Doesn’t seem as if I can create a ‘part’ on the group channel track to contain the automation (and so cut / trim / move that part) as is possible in Logic - or am I missing something really obvious here?
Any advice gratefully received!
I think you’ll have to move by selecting range instead.
When moving the audio / Midi track parts, also select the group track, and do it by selecting the range, not the objects themselves. That should work.
Thank you both for your replies - solved! Phew…
Why is this?
For me its much handier if Groups follow automation, when moving a whole folder or something like that…i use a lot of time delete, time move, arranging etc where its better if Group follow automation when multiple parts are moved.
Also when importing tracks with groups this is much better for me, specially in complicated projects…
Can we have this option in settings perhaps? Groups follow automation?
Am i missing something? Apart using Range Tool?
I guess the difficulty lies in which parts automation on groups should follow, right?
(I’m assuming you mean group automation follows parts)
I could see how you would end up with a complete mess if this was enabled and you started moving individual clips around on the timeline without realizing your group automation followed. My nat sound tracks, just to give one example, go to a nat group that goes to a sound effects group that goes to the M&E group that goes to the DME group. So if I slide a few things back and forth without realizing I have the option on I’d make a mess out of several groups at once.
I think it’s also somewhat questionable what type of behavior you would want as you move these clips around and automation lines move. Do you want hard ‘cuts’ or smooth ramps? What if there’s an overlap? In many cases I bet it’s easier to deal with this using single clips on one timeline with the track’s automation.
I’m not against it, but I think it’s potentially messy both to get the logic right (programming) and in user implementation.
yes you are right that would be super confusing
Yes… but… here is an example where group track automation following edits would be a plus: I have been mixing a feature film. Locked picture was never more of a myth than in this project as the director kept slicing up the film even though music, sound design and tutti quanti was done. So I group 400 audio tracks and do his carefully noted edits with automation follows edit on and then I range move automation on Fx and group tracks. If it could all be done in one action, it would save a lot of time and possible errors. As locked picture is more and more of a myth, please consider adding this option.
yes but you need to do the show automation on all tracks, right? Otherwise you would still miss something you forgot, somewhere hidden in a group inside a folder inside another folder 
That is why we use dedicated tools to do this. You either use EDL’s and Nuendo built in reconform or use for example cargo cults matchbox.
Matchbox is obviously the most competent tool there is on the market and because of that it is also more expensive, but it also gives you possibilities that no other solution does at this time.
If you want to do it by hand, it is possible using the copy time range and then paste as that copies everything on all tracks, and as long as the destination tracks aren’t locked it will paste everything back on the same trucks as well.
While matchbox might seem like an expensive purchase, it will pay for itself probably within the first project you work on.
Matchbox can also help you find all those smaller types of changes where a additional line has been added by using a mobile recording of The line, or when music has been moved in time, all those things that are hard to find when moving between versions of the edit. You can also help you find and locate all the VFX changes or any other types of in-frame changes where it’s not the change of the cut itself but something in the picture itself has changed lika screen insert for example, very very helpful.