H 5 is completely Awesome !!!!!

[Muziksculp]

@Gribs

I just received and installed Halion 5 last night. I am not new to Cubase, but I have never used the Halion products or the Halion Sonic products either. I have used Kontakt, Alchemy, and others (Reaktor, etc). I have also been using Padshop Pro quite a bit. I bough Halion primarily for doing layered granular synthesis using my own analog modular recordings as fodder, but read so many other good things about it that I decided to just get it for the library, too (I did the Absolute VSTI Collection → Halion 5 upgrade so also got a full Halion Sonic 2 and a bunch of extra material).

If there is one feature that I would add for a person like me it would be a whole bunch of tutorials that walk you through basic functions like creating a new sound, loading and mapping samples, using the VA synth and macros, adding layers and effects, buses, how phrases work, etc. I am just getting going by hunting and pecking. The tutorials do not have to be videos; I like written tutorials as well.

Yes, some in-depth, comprehensive Halion 5 tutorials would be great. Hopefully, Steinberg, MacPro Video, and Groove3 will release some in-depth videos for Halion 5. There is so much to learn in Halion 5, any tools that would make it faster to grasp the ins and outs of H5 would be helpful.

Cheers,
Muziksculp

[samwax]

Many H5 tutorials , mostly showing tones , very few giving user interface,( how 2 ) and signal routing n tricks n tips , SB should release this , well !!
and as far as tones n timber quality , are u all new H5 users saying, sounds different from H4 , is there a different engine @ work behind now ?? and by the way i still cant figure out what those *** star ratings are there per tone…on H 4 , thanks
sm

[Muziksculp]

@samwax

Many H5 tutorials , mostly showing tones , very few giving user interface,( how 2 ) and signal routing n tricks n tips , SB should release this , well !!
and as far as tones n timber quality , are u all new H5 users saying, sounds different from H4 , is there a different engine @ work behind now ?? and by the way i still cant figure out what those *** star ratings are there per tone…on H 4 , thanks
sm

Some good news regarding Halion 5 tutorials !

Groove3 will be releasing Halion 5 video tutorials this month. Check their website during Aug.

Tutorial Videos for Recording, Mixing & Production

Cheers,
Muziksculp

[PSYNTHETIK1]

I decided to just go ahead and say f*^k it to the demo and buy H5 (with vst collection upgrade) last night and all I can say is WOW!!! This thing is insane. I don’t have a clue how to use it yet, but from just messing around with it, with the help of the groove 3 tutorial today, I can do almost anything I want with it. The synth engine alone makes me think I can dump most, if not all my 3rd party vst’s as I own a xoxbox, virus c and a nord lead. Still haven’t even dug into the the sample portion so Ill get back after more use. Again, WOW. Good work Steinberg

[tex]

ARRRGH I need some sleep!!! H5/HS2 is keeping me up till 3am each night !

[G-string]

@tex

ARRRGH I need some sleep!!! H5/HS2 is keeping me up till 3am each night !

What you mean your getting some sleep ???

This thing needs to come with a government health warning

[samwax]

@PSYNTHETIK_

The synth engine alone makes me think I can dump most, if not all my 3rd party vst’s as I own a xoxbox, virus c and a nord lead. Still haven’t even dug into the the sample portion so Ill get back after more use. Again, WOW. Good work Steinberg

Sorry , but do you , is there a Nord lead as a Vsti ??? sm

[PSYNTHETIK1]

No, sorry my wording wasn’t very good there. I just mean with the hardware that I have in addition to H5, a lot of my vst’s don’t need to be used anymore. There is a vst called discovery pro that is apparently very close to a nord lead but I haven’t used it

[samwax]

@PSYNTHETIK_

No, sorry my wording wasn’t very good there. I just mean with the hardware that I have in addition to H5, a lot of my vst’s don’t need to be used anymore. There is a vst called discovery pro that is apparently very close to a nord lead but I haven’t used it

No Issues , used the nord some time back , always fascinated by its sounds, well, if H5 is so awesome , and it still uses the old H4 engine , and the update specifies so , using the older H4 tones , also, well , i do believe n it must be Gr8, can some one pls give exactly what makes it so awesome , is it the tone rendering ? better samples ?user interface ? what the difference from the older H4 ? that makes H5 so special, thanks sm

[Elektrobolt]

@samwax

well, if H5 is so awesome , and it still uses the old H4 engine , and the update specifies so , using the older H4 tones , also, well , i do believe n it must be Gr8, can some one pls give exactly what makes it so awesome , is it the tone rendering ? better samples ?user interface ? what the difference from the older H4 ? that makes H5 so special, thanks sm

Steinberg has an entire page specifying what’s new, what you get and why H5.

[samwax]

@Elektrobolt

@samwax

well, if H5 is so awesome , and it still uses the old H4 engine , and the update specifies so , using the older H4 tones , also, well , i do believe n it must be Gr8, can some one pls give exactly what makes it so awesome , is it the tone rendering ? better samples ?user interface ? what the difference from the older H4 ? that makes H5 so special, thanks sm

Steinberg has an entire page specifying what’s new, what you get and why H5.

thanks checking it right now , seems cool, all i read so far , would like to see some youtubes … but i m sold already … sm

[Elektrobolt]

@iRan

Cubase 7 and HALion 5 WOW

Yeah, I concur, mate.

H5 has matured HALion into a fantastic audio tool. The added granular synthesis engine is too awesome. Even though I love Padshop Pro, the flexibility that HAL5 offers is astounding.

Another thing which is really cool, is that the macro synthesizers that comes with it, gives a nice view of how sounds can be built, since they are built directly with the HALion engine, basically showing off the relationship between visual sound machines (synthesizer, drum machines, etc.) and how they would be represented in H5 (the tree).

[Muziksculp]

Hi,

I love the Reverb in Padshop Pro. I don’t think it was ported into Halion 5.

Would love to see Steinberg port it into Halion 5. It’s an awesome sounding reverb !

Thanks,
Muziksculp

[Elektrobolt]

@samwax

Many H5 tutorials , mostly showing tones , very few giving user interface,( how 2 ) and signal routing n tricks n tips , SB should release this , well !!
and as far as tones n timber quality , are u all new H5 users saying, sounds different from H4 , is there a different engine @ work behind now ?? and by the way i still cant figure out what those *** star ratings are there per tone…on H 4 , thanks
sm

I think that probably the best medicine here, would be for you to grab a few sounds (“factory” presets) and examine how they are constructed (using the tree).

E.g. when I initially load HALion, it contains a preset called HALion City (image of the basic tree included below). This sound (in total) consists of an element each from Auron, Trium and Voltage. (There is also a “Layer 4” with auxiliary busses as well as the “Program-Bus”.) You could use these elements to create individual programs for each of the synthesizers listed (Auron, Trium and Voltage) but more importantly, this program shows the power and possible complexity of HALion.

Now, Auron show cases the new “Zone Type” called Grain (that’s the granular synthesis engine) whereas Trium and Voltage uses the Synth engine (also a Zone Type), but they are all part of this one program. They all use an instance of FlexPhraser as well as various individual and global effects. This all makes for a huge sound texture.

Note Expression (NE) is also used the modulation matrix, as is the Quick Controls (QC).

All this OBVIOUSLY results in a much greater need of resources (CPU, memory, storage, etc. depending on the resources used) which potentially prohibits some people, that could run past HALion versions, from running H5 on that same computer. This is not a “fault” of Steinberg, it’s an inevitable process of software. We want cooler stuff, Steinberg can make it happen, but in order to drive with that new high powered engine, you need a frame that can take it.

[samwax]

All this OBVIOUSLY results in a much greater need of resources (CPU, memory, storage, etc. depending on the resources used) which potentially prohibits some people, that could run past HALion versions, from running H5 on that same computer. This is not a “fault” of Steinberg, it’s an inevitable process of software. We want cooler stuff, Steinberg can make it happen, but in order to drive with that new high powered engine, you need a frame that can take it.
thank you ,
so what would be the minimum Hard ware requirement for H5 , would a 2 nd gen i3 , with 16 gb RAM do ? so far H4.5 runs fine on these , sam

[Andrew_Henderson]

@samwax

All this OBVIOUSLY results in a much greater need of resources (CPU, memory, storage, etc. depending on the resources used) which potentially prohibits some people, that could run past HALion versions, from running H5 on that same computer. This is not a “fault” of Steinberg, it’s an inevitable process of software. We want cooler stuff, Steinberg can make it happen, but in order to drive with that new high powered engine, you need a frame that can take it.
thank you ,
so what would be the minimum Hard ware requirement for H5 , would a 2 nd gen i3 , with 16 gb RAM do ? so far H4.5 runs fine on these , sam

This will be just fine. HALion 5 will run just as well on systems that ran HALion 4.5, in fact, it is noted that it actually runs better. No more lag when the mixer, etc is open and things get busy. If you had no problem running 4.5, you will be more than happy with HALion 5’s performance on the same system.

[samwax]

Thanks Cantankerous , ur opinions are always head on , precise , n a joy to read … thanks sm

[Andrew_Henderson]

@samwax

Thanks Cantankerous , ur opinions are always head on , precise , n a joy to read … thanks sm

Thanks for the kind words. I am glad to hear I am able to help others out. You are most welcome and best of luck with HALion 5, though I know you will have a blast with it.

[DavidGlynn]

Halion 5 is an improvement from 4 no doubt but it is still not as snappy as it should be IMO. At least on my system. I find myself reaching for Halion Sonic 2 more often as a result.

I love the new sound sets, I would like to see them as single plug ins like Treibwerk, Hypnotic dance etc

[Andrew_Henderson]

@DavidGlynn

Halion 5 is an improvement from 4 no doubt but it is still not as snappy as it should be IMO. At least on my system. I find myself reaching for Halion Sonic 2 more often as a result.

I love the new sound sets, I would like to see them as single plug ins like Treibwerk, Hypnotic dance etc

Good to hear back from you. I was literally thinking of you earlier today and was planning on reaching out to see how the performance was for you with HALion 5, as I know you were unhappy with the sluggish performance of HALion 4 when things got busy. I am glad you are seeing an improvement, but it is too bad you are still not 100% satisfied. Personally, I found sluggish issues in HALion 4 very noticeable, but nothing in HALion 5 at all. I am all for more performance however, if things can be further tweaked.