Hairpin&key signature

[k.k]

hairpin&key signature.dorico (1.6 MB)

1. The blue hairpin extends across the barline. How should I notate this properly?"
2. The natural sign in the green section should appear in the next barline instead. How can I fix this?"
   The key signature with a natural at the end is correct.
3. When a ‘p’ dynamic and a hairpin are placed together, only the ‘p’ is visible. How can I fix this? Setting it to ‘before’ in beat-relative position makes it visible, but it shifts the marking too far forward.

[billstevns]

1. Do you want the hairpin to end before the bar line? That setting is NOT in notation options.

Edit: Apologies, that setting is in Engraving Options as Charles wrote. Under Dynamics a couple of screens down is Advanced Options and that is where the setting can be found.

::: Bill

[charles_piano]

1. Either enable this Engraving Option (but it will be global)
   
   

or enter your hairpin up to the F and not further.

2. I’m not sure I properly understand. It’s an accidental cancellation, not a time signature — so it appears before the double barline, while the time signature appears after it (in this case, there’s nothing because it’s C major). [EDIT : the “traditional” option displays both after the barline, see next post by @asherber] If you want to move the cancellation after the double barline, you’ll need to adjust these two values in Engrave Mode to get proper spacing (activate Globally if you want this modification to appear in all layouts)
   

   

3. I’m not sure to understand either, I managed to put a p between the two hairpins (see screenshot #2), didn’t you?

Your file with these settings:

hairpin&key signature.dorico (1,6 Mo)

[asherber]

@charles_piano

If you want to move the cancellation after the double barline, you’ll need to adjust these two values in Engrave Mode to get proper spacing

You can also just set the global option Engraving Options > Key Signatures > Cancellation naturals at changes of key signature to “Common practice” instead of “Russian”.

[charles_piano]

@asherber

set the global option Engraving Options > Key Signatures > Cancellation naturals at changes of key signature to “Common practice” instead of “Russian”.

Good point! However, the OP seems to say that the 2nd cancellation/KS is correct, unless I misunderstood.

[asherber]

@charles_piano

However, the OP seems to say that the 2nd cancellation/KS is correct

Oh, sorry, you’re right – I missed that. I guess I would suggest in general that the Russian style is the one most likely to confuse musicians and should be avoided (unless you’re specifically copying a Russian edition)

[k.k]

Thanks. @billstevns @charles_piano @asherber
It usually follows the Russian style, but sometimes the green part needs to be placed like @charles_piano showed. It seems like it has to be moved arbitrarily.

[asherber]

I’m not sure exactly what you’re describing, but I believe that your screenshot is correct according to the Russian style. The cancellations always go before the barline, and the new key signature after it. In the case of C major, there’s nothing to display after the barline.