Great thread, though I can load just about anything I want into HALion…but they do need to give a little more love to such a fantastic product
Would be good ready-to-use scripting system perhaps (for build your own devices).
i would not be surprised if Halion 6 comes out with Cubase 9 together in the package. This will be their big upgrade incentive.
I hope HALion 6 will be presented at the Musikmesse.
The new UVI Falcon is a very powerful sampler, and synth, I just started learning, and using it, it kind of resembles Halion 5, I wonder what new features Halion 6 will offer, and if they have done further improvements to the GUI, and workflow, close integration with Cubase Pro, and Wavelab Pro.
Yes, It would be so cool if Steinberg presents Halion 6 at Musikmesse.
Do you happen to know if Falcon accepts VST-XML drag and drop? So drop regions (sliced events) directly to the sampler.
Falcon has what they call a ‘Slice’ Oscillator. Falcon is a very powerful Sampler & Synth. Quite deep, and offers lots of sophisticated effects, midi effects, granular Synthesis, …etc. Lots of info, and videos about it on Youtube, and on their website. I’m not sure what VST-XML drag and drop means when referring to Falcon, but you can surely drag and drop a .wav file into Falcon’s Slice Osc, and it will slice it for you.
Quote from the UVI Website regarding the Slice OSC. in Falcon
Ideal for rhythmic and percussive material, the Slice oscillator can divide samples into discrete keygroups to be resequenced. Adjust transient sensitivity manually or use embedded markers like those found in REX files. Drag-and-drop export of sliced file maps in a variety of ways including as a Falcon patch, discrete WAV files, or MIDI sequence."
Thanks Muziksculp, Slice OSC sounds interesting too.
I just received a notice from UVI about the new Falcon update supporting VST-XML. A shame they don’t have a demo version available.
What is VST-XML ? can you explain what this is ? and how is it useful to have ?
With VST-XML (or VSTXML) when you drop the audio event from the arrangement, you actually drop a code snippet on the VST instrument. The code informs the VST plugins where to find the sample file(s) and what regions to play. Also how the file should be treated, like: Tempo, quantize data, root note, region data (slice) etc.
A common single XML slice looks like this:
<vst-xml> <region id="00000000216CEA30"> <filename>C:\SomeFolder\SomeFileLocationsomeFileName.wav</filename> <start>0</start> <end>102775</end> <projectTime domain="quarterNotes">1</projectTime> <tempo>77.236682072488449</tempo> </region> </vst-xml>
One of the benefits is you can slice your samples in your host (I use Studio One, but Cubase supports it too) and maintain the slices in the sampler, but still have the possibility to adjust the regions of the sample in the sample player. Also you can simply edit a sliced sample as a single file, because the sample player reads the entire file and maps it according to the regional data. So the file isn’t physically sliced.
It’s pretty convenient.
That’s very interesting, and something I didn’t know. I’m guessing Halion 5 supports VST-XML.
Thanks for the explanations.
Yes, Halion 5 and GA4 both support it.
I just want to phase out all my Steinberg software. So if Falcon can replace Halion I’m a happy camper
I see. So you have jumped the fence to Studio One Pro. Cool DAW, just starting to learn my way around it.
imho. it is valuable to have both Cubase and Studio One, (Why Not ?) .
Hmmm… Why do you want to phase out all your Steinberg Software ? Halion, GA4 are great VSTs., and you can use them in S1Pro.
AAX support please!
Let’s say I’m personally happier with products from other brands on the long run.
Have you tried the VST3 version of Halion in Studio One?
No I have not tried using the VST3 or the VST2 versions of Halion 5 in S1Pro yet. I’m guessing you are having issues with running the VST3 version of H5 in S1Pro. I also read that S1Pro runs more efficient, and maybe more stable on PC than on Mac. (just like Cubase)
That’s a bummer, hopefully this can be fixed in the near future. (did you check if other S1Pro users are having issues with H5 as well ? )
Are you running S1Pro on Mac or PC ?
I’m using PC but OSX users reported the same issue since 2013. If the issue is at Steinberg’s end, it probably won’t be fixed ever. If the issue is at PreSonus end it will be fixed eventually.
However, I don’t know where the culprit is and Steinberg does not seem to care much the VST3 version of their product is failing in other hosts.
Nothing about Halion 6 today, eh? A shame. I was hoping.